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Not to mention - how are they supposed to learn how to deal with each other when they get into the 'real" world? Coed classes are a big part of learning how to respect one another.
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06-13-2002, 06:58 PM | #22 |
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But there's also a huge foundation to social activity between sexes in co'ed schools and classes. It's important to have grrls and bois meddle and do stuff together. ^_^
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Oh, yeah, definately lawsuit heaven. It's too bad because it really could work. Heck, they could even just make it an option and see what happens (for instance, in an elementary school that has students enough for 4 classes, make 1 each for boys only/ girls only, and then 2 co ed).
I agree that mixing the sexes is greatly beneficial too, and that could be worked into the day. In high school, there could be some classes offered that would have one period of the class girls only, one period boys only. I think it's something for school to think about, and the students and teachers could evaluate it's effectivness. If it's not working, scrap it. |
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Yeah, they could blend it in with PE or sports or something...
Oh, PE...
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06-13-2002, 07:21 PM | #26 |
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Yea, I thought so...
Is it good or bad then? I wouldn't know, we've always had only single sex PE...
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We had co-ed everything as well. Including rugby... (fondly remembers the time she was tackled by 3 heavy males at once. ) and swimming. Now if that's not enough to give you a complex!
I think it's gone too far. Honestly, you know there's a problem, when adults are impinging adult values upon children's activities! Besides which, there comes the problems of institutionalisation. If you send a boy to a home, or jail to pay for an immature, irresponsible childish prank, then all it's going to do is convert that childish prankster into a hardened criminal! Remember that movie? You know the one that was based on the (fictional?) book by Lorenzo something or other, where they played that prank on the Hot Dog vendor, and accidentally killed him? "Sleepers". Okay, so it's worst case scenario, but still. Those boys got locked away for a prank, and two became mob guys. The line has to be drawn. It's just ridiculous to try and impinge adult values upon childish behaviour. Let the damned kids grow up first!
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Words, in too many cases, either hurt more than the bruises and cuts, or are the cause of the fight in the first place. Then again, it is also true that words might often be the only possible comfort to offer. I think it's absolutely ridiculous what people will sue for. Seems to me that adults forget too much what it's like to be kids, and then refuse to understand the way kids think. Zero Tolerance is stupid, too -- heck, everybody makes mistakes. If we didn't we'd not be human. As for split-sex schools; well, they are available. I personally enjoy coed classes simply because I often get along with boys over girls, for whatever reason. "I don't run with many girls cause they talk too much " -- Caramel, City High.
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06-16-2002, 01:49 AM | #30 |
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Split-sex classes? *shudder* How horrible! You're cut off from half the human race!
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This is why I'm homeschooled. I didn't know this BS was goin' on until now.
With the Columbine thing I think it was even half way. The parents WERE'NT paying attention to what their kids were doing and they didn't care what they were doing. I mean the stinkers were making BOMBS in their GARAGE and the MOM didn't do ANYTHING. But it was also the boys faults because no one told them to take their guns and shoot down everyone who was popular,a christian,a different race,or anti rascist in that school, but the parents should have payed more attention to what they were doing. And in certain areas I think parents SHOULD be blamed like in the case of the woman who sued the furniture store because she tripped over a little toddler that was running around and out of control and broke her ankle. The toddler was her own son and she WON the lawsuit. but in the case of that "Sexual Harrassment" thing...the little kid had no idea what that meant and he was booted from the school. I am thankful I am homeschooled where I have just enough of this stupidity on the news that I dont have to put up with it in "school" Sam
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I suppose I should qualify that by saying that this was never a problem at the elementary school level, and I was in an all-girls school, where people play rough, at the secondary level, so I'm speaking purely from experience at the university recreational level. It's not like I'm on a varsity team or anything. |
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06-21-2002, 02:37 AM | #33 |
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I wish that was true in NZ (or at least at my school - which was a rough school, I guess...) Boys take their "rugger" over here VERY seriously!
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Here is another where will it end episode.
A ten year old being sued for taking a practice swing with a baseball bat at a picnic and hitting his friend in the mouth. Quote:
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That's just crazy. Now if the kid had intentionally hit the other kid in the face with the bat, it's another matter. But accidents happen. I got hit in the head with a baseball bat on a backswing when I was in the second grade, and did my parents go and file a lawsuit? No, because they knew that it wasn't on purpose and that accidents happen. It's a legal-action-happy world that we live in...
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Oy, people these days. Personally I wouldn't mind going to an all girls school. The boys in my classes are for the most part loud, rude, annoying, and real pains to be in a classroom with.
I haven't had much experience with the no tolerance stuff (though people in my school have, I try to stay out of trouble) but the curriculums in the washington school district are evil!! They're boring, they don't work and then there's all the testing and I think being a kindergarten teacher is driving mom slowly insane. The school officials these days need a heavy dose of sanity and reality, they're going way overboard with all these policies and tests and stuff.
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Well I guess it's not just Americans that sue -
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Not to mention that lawyer... helping to save a dog that, along with another dog, killed a woman? Sad.
Okay, I'll try not to tangentize this thread... if it isn't about the money, is there an equally effective way to draw attention to the apparent problem? I can't think of any. Maybe the cat commited suicide... I'd hate to be called "Fu", myself.
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i say sue for no more then 20,000 but not five million.
i don't know what i would do if someone lost one or more of my pets! breakdown and huddle in a corner maybe..
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I would hate it if my dogs were lost on a plane or something - but I wouldn't sue for $5 million. The other question - how much is the lawyer getting from this case? He doesn't work for free I'm sure. And he's probably one of those lawyers that suggest these type of lawsuits in the first place. Get's him publicity and money.
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