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Found out this morning and have been madly trying to contact all the brits. Such a tragedy.
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I sure hope everyone is all right. Be careful everyone in Britain! (This also affects me because the only way for my mom and I to get around is with my stepdad or on the train...the Metro Red Line subway to be exact.)
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when i was in london, a little more than a year ago, we always went from russel square with underground, since the plae where we lived was close to it. i actually saw the hostel where we lived on the news. i don't know if i feel very affected because of that though - i don't think there's a need to. there are millions of people living there every day, and i've been there once.
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I've read about it today and I'm very sorry for the victims' families
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I was supposed to meet with colleagues near Old Street this morning and would have passed three of the four sites. I know several people who work at the BMA right opposite where the bus went up; and I've heard two "near miss" stories so far (one person late for work therefore not on the Piccadilly line as usual at 8.45; another was one block away from the bus blast). By all accounts a world class response from the emergency services. People were on life-support machines at the scene within minutes. Inspirational. The NHS rules! I don't know what others feel but I think that it is highly insensitive to be posting links to pictures of guns on a thread like this. The fact that it's a moderator doing it just makes it worse. |
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Me and mum actually had plans on going to London for my birthday. Perhaps a good thing we didn't. Absolutely horrid what some people do in the name of some half-cooked idea. Or because they want to scare other countries from sending athetes there or tourists going there.
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Hope the tube will be running smoothly by the time I get there.
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Well, it will probably be back to normal, which is not to say running smoothly exactly. With 3m journeys per day the place will be in gridlock if it's not.
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British Library Reading Room, St Pancras. A truly awesome building, and buzzing with sexual tension according to a recent article in the Spectator...
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I hope things work out
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The problems I have with ID cards are that I don't trust the technology, I don't trust the systems behind them, I may or may not trust the people who'll be using those systems, I certainly don't trust the people who'll be using them in 20 years' time and I don't think they'll actually prevent theft, fraud or terrorism.
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From what I've seen and read I get the impression the people in London aren't all too impressed and shell-shocked by what's happened. I've been hearing jokes about the French sure being lousy losers over the Olympics and mentions of if Hitler couldn't bring London down in the war, the chances of terrorists to do so in a day are rather small. (There are also an odd number of refrences to tea...)
Is this just my impression or are the people of Brittain a little more 'bomb-proof'? Maybe due to the long conflict with the IRA?
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Well, in a sense, I don't suppose they feel it as bad as we do. On American local channel (by which I mean the ones you have without getting cabel installed), the London bombings are sure to take up the news hour every time it shows on one of the channels. Therefore, we are more alarmed than necessary, considering past events such as 9/11, and because everything sounds like the end of the world when it takes up all of the local news.
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It's quite shocking.. IMO. Have Family in London, my uncle passes every day on Picadilly, too - he was already in office when it happened, luckily. I myself have been in all 3 places in Tube where it happened about one year ago. Hmmm... no, I didn't imagine anything as such would happen there. It was all very quiet and calm. I wouldn't mind going to London again though, not at all... planning on going to the Olympics, maybe.
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In addition, life in many parts of Britain during WW2 was a daily experience of bombing, death and destruction. My grandparents lived in the East End of London during the Blitz and saw a large part of their world in rubble. The war wasn't something happening far away - it was right there in ordinary life. Ability to cope with danger (which was IMO far worse than what we face today) became part of the British identity, something people pride themselves on. This week we're commemorating the 60th anniversary of the end of the war - this brings it closer for many people who are too young to remember, and we want to follow in the footsteps of those who were so courageous in the past. Terrorism is different to war, but if its aim is to destroy your way of life, you can fight it in the same way - by going on living, and by responding as many people did yesterday, with care for others and solidarity and quiet strength. As for tea, it's the answer to every other problem, so why not terrorism as well? ![]()
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And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool. Last edited by sun-star : 07-08-2005 at 04:13 PM. |
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