04-12-2002, 05:25 AM | #21 |
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Eowyn is definately better than Arwen. What did Arwen do when the war of the ring was on? Stayed at home. At least Eowyn had the guts to go out and fight against the dark lord. I know that Aragorn and Arwen's family tree makes them the perfect couple and it probably couldn't be any other way, it would have cool it Aragorn and Eowyn got together.
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04-13-2002, 04:14 PM | #22 | |
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04-13-2002, 04:34 PM | #23 |
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Arwen wasn't invented until Tolkien was almost done with Lotr and he didn't want to rewrite the book just to fit Arwen in. That's why most of her stuff is in the appends. I don't think we know enough about Arwen to say with certainty what she would have done with a more active role.
I agree that Eowyn outshines Arwen (and lots of others too!) that's why she one of my favs.
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04-13-2002, 06:52 PM | #24 |
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I too prefer Eowyn. Her character is much more developed.
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04-14-2002, 11:03 AM | #25 |
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Eowyn. We known about her more as a person and she is much more developed. She goes out and does things, she kicks butt like the best of them. I wish more was said about Arwen, then I would probably appriciate her much more.
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04-14-2002, 03:50 PM | #26 |
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Arwen. She seems girly and weak, but she must have a lot of inner strength to give up immortality and her father to marry Aragorn. Also, it can't be easy to sit at home and do nothing while the man you love is in great danger and the whole world is under threat - just because she doesn't abandon her people and her duty to go and fight doesn't mean she isn't brave. Eowyn annoys me, she's too self-centred, although the killing of the Nazgul King is really cool.
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04-14-2002, 04:37 PM | #27 |
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Arwen definitely, since I like elves more than humans. Beauty should be delicate anyway.
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04-15-2002, 11:23 AM | #28 |
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I began a thread around two months ago asking the same question, but more from a "who's the better babe for Aragorn?" point of view. I was puzzled by his choice of Arwen, but I guess their story was never really told in FULL detail. Anyway, there's bunch of other opinions on Arwen and Eowyn there if anyone is interested in investigating further.
http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...&threadid=3581
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04-15-2002, 12:01 PM | #29 |
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Well, I would have to go with Arwen from the Elves v Humans standpoint. Also Arwen never gets crushes on powerful guys just because.
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04-15-2002, 12:13 PM | #30 |
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I'd prefer Arwen...there wasn't much of her in the books but hey she got Aragorn.....a BIG plus
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04-15-2002, 02:22 PM | #31 |
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I will arrange the thread. til now:
Eowyn: 19 Arwen: 7 and I'm still with Arwen!!!! |
04-15-2002, 07:12 PM | #32 |
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Éowyn is definately my favourite. In that scene in the Two Towers when Aragorn is about to go off to the Paths of the Dead and Éowyn wants to go with him, that was when I was like, 'okay this girl is really a great character: brave, passionate, deep. It was when she fell to her knees and pleaded with Aragorn to let her come along: "I beg thee!" she said! That was what hooked me into her character. Wow.
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04-15-2002, 08:02 PM | #33 |
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Poor Arwen. It seems a mortal has beat her in likability. Good for her Aragorn didn't think the same way.
By the way, I'm with Eowyn! GO NAZGUL KICKIN CHICKS EVERYWHERE!!! (No offense Nazgul Queen, when I say nazgul in that term I mean male nazguls.)
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04-15-2002, 10:28 PM | #34 |
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None taken.
I also like her for being a human with the courage, skill and faith to defeat one of my brethren.
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04-16-2002, 01:08 AM | #35 |
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Eowyn. Eowyn's cool!
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04-16-2002, 02:14 PM | #36 |
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Eowyn didn't have courage, she had a death wish.
Also, don't knock the banner! The standard and the standard bearer are key elements in battle. Theoden didn't go for the standard bearer because there was no one more powerful around at the moment, he knew that once the banner fell, the soldiers would easily scatter. They could be cut off from the main body. The fighting force could be penetrated because the soldiers wouldn't be able to rally together.
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Sorry, sorry, didn't mean to strick a nerve. (jeez) She is an ok character, but I still like mine more.
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