Legolas the apparently Unwanted - Page 2

***Khamûl*** · 05-05-2003, 11:34 PM

Please keep discussion of the movies to the movies forum.

Orion · 05-06-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Lalaith
I don't think that Aragorn was everyones best friend. He was more the kind of guy who walks alone, without friends. I think the others didn't really fit to him and they didn't understand his fears and expectations.

I think that his closest friends were his fellow rangers, like Halbarad. (Like you said), he could understand Aragorn better than the people in the fellowship could, because they had the same background and they had known each others for a long time.

Lalaith · 05-06-2003, 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by Ruinel
Those were CG arrows and a CG Troll.

Destroy my illusions. *starts crying*
No, seriously. But then nobody of all the actors would have been a good fighter.

Bombadillo · 05-06-2003, 10:50 AM

I think readers dislike Legolas because he may seem relatively useless to to the fellowship, and because he isn't the coolest, badassest character. And many people don't like movie Legolas because "he doesn't even do anything and he's the only one you hear about." Frankly they're jealous. Perhaps.

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-06-2003, 11:01 AM

Uh, Lai...

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Originally posted by Khamûl
Please keep discussion of the movies to the movies forum.

Lalaith · 05-06-2003, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Gwaimir Windgem
Uh, Lai...

Talking to me?
I didn't make this ambiguous thread. It's not quite clear if it is about book or movie.

***azalea*** · 05-06-2003, 04:26 PM

As I was reading this, I was going to make the same comment as Khamul, but he beat me to it. If I had seen this when it was only the first two posts, I would have moved it to the other forum, but since then the discussion has turned from ambiguity to being basically about the character of Legolas (with a tangent discussion about Aragorn), so I'm leaving it here. Comments about movie Legolas can be made in one of the several threads about him in that forum.

Iboen · 05-08-2003, 01:34 PM

i'm sorry this turned out to be a movie thread but i'd just like to say that (as a last say sort of thing) Legolas (Orlando Bloom) only did nothing in the film because it was his flippin' first film.

He's a newbie just like me.

***azalea*** · 05-08-2003, 02:34 PM

There's no need to apologize -- I was just remarking that since it was placed here and the discussion has been less about the movie that I would be leaving it here.

Lalaith · 05-08-2003, 05:10 PM

the character of Legolas in the book wasn't too often mentioned (so I guess he wasn't that important in the movie either) ... we don't know that much about him

Seladeen the Hobbit · 05-08-2003, 05:21 PM

the reason people think this is because legolas got a horriable part. i mean, to anyone who hasnt read the books and reliazed that he is REALLY cool and aragon the same. i dont go on either sides but the part in the movie (for legolas) sucked while aragons rocked hard core!

Lalaith · 05-08-2003, 05:25 PM

I guess that had to have a main character (which was almost Aragorn). but we shoud go back to the book, really

Wayfarer · 05-08-2003, 07:36 PM

Allright, my restraint is failing.

Everybody, this thread is in the books forum. Either /stuff/ the films or get a mod to move this thread.

Sowwy bout dat, folks.

Lalaith · 05-09-2003, 06:41 AM

I thought the book Legolas was very funny.

IthilienPrincess · 05-09-2003, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by Wayfarer
Allright, my restraint is failing.

Everybody, this thread is in the books forum. Either /stuff/ the films or get a mod to move this thread.

Sowwy bout dat, folks.

this is about legolas, it doesn't necessarily fit exclusively into either forum, i think it's fine if we discuss Legolas in the movie and book

***azalea*** · 05-09-2003, 10:36 PM

Well, you see, the problem with that is that we have a strict policy here that ALL discussion of the movies be confined to the movie forum (see thread at top of this forum), since really, the movie is just an interpretation of TLotR. This forum is exclusively for discussion of the book, and the movie has no relevance here. That is why any movie discussion is confined to that forum.
So as I said, the course of this particular discussion led us to analyzing the character of Legolas and his relations with the other members of the Fellowship. That is a perfectly legitimate discussion, and logically fits here. Again, the movie is irrelevant here (IOW, it is not appropriate to use movie Legolas in analyses of the book or in defense of arguments pertaining to the books, because the movie isn't the source material. Conversely, we do use instances from the book when discussing the movie in its forum, because the book is the source material.)

There are, as I said, at least two or three threads in the movie forum that would be entirely appropriate to discuss Legolas as he is portrayed in the movies, and I encourage anyone who wishes to do so to, well, do so!

But posting about the movie here makes no sense, because in this forum we discuss the books!

Now doesn't that make sense, everyone?

BTW, welcome to Entmoot, IthilienPrincess.

Lalaith · 05-10-2003, 08:23 AM

It makes sense, of course.

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-10-2003, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayfarer
Allright, my restraint is failing.

Everybody, this thread is in the books forum. Either /stuff/ the films or get a mod to move this thread.

Sowwy bout dat, folks.

Hey, you know the fangirls...Can't help themselves.

IthilienPrincess · 05-10-2003, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by azalea
Well, you see, the problem with that is that we have a strict policy here that ALL discussion of the movies be confined to the movie forum (see thread at top of this forum), since really, the movie is just an interpretation of TLotR. This forum is exclusively for discussion of the book, and the movie has no relevance here. That is why any movie discussion is confined to that forum.
So as I said, the course of this particular discussion led us to analyzing the character of Legolas and his relations with the other members of the Fellowship. That is a perfectly legitimate discussion, and logically fits here. Again, the movie is irrelevant here (IOW, it is not appropriate to use movie Legolas in analyses of the book or in defense of arguments pertaining to the books, because the movie isn't the source material. Conversely, we do use instances from the book when discussing the movie in its forum, because the book is the source material.)

There are, as I said, at least two or three threads in the movie forum that would be entirely appropriate to discuss Legolas as he is portrayed in the movies, and I encourage anyone who wishes to do so to, well, do so! But posting about the movie here makes no sense, because in this forum we discuss the books!

Now doesn't that make sense, everyone?

BTW, welcome to Entmoot, IthilienPrincess.

Thanks, azalea. I didn't mean to cause a big thing, but some people only have the movies to go by. I'm just saying that discussing the character Legolas could be done using the movies or books. I totally understand the policy though. sorry!

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-10-2003, 01:00 PM

Sad, isn't it, that some people only watch those (erhem) movies without reading the books...But it's their own choice.

05-05-2003, 11:34 PM	#21
*Khamûl* Slacker Warrior Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,759	Please keep discussion of the movies to the movies forum. __________________ "If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you." Gandalf to Pippin Psalm 107:31

05-06-2003, 10:50 AM	#24
Bombadillo "The Bomb" Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: all over the place Posts: 1,601	I think readers dislike Legolas because he may seem relatively useless to to the fellowship, and because he isn't the coolest, badassest character. And many people don't like movie Legolas because "he doesn't even do anything and he's the only one you hear about." Frankly they're jealous. Perhaps. __________________ Could it be that one path to enlightenment leads through insanity?

05-08-2003, 01:34 PM	#28
Iboen Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Cheshire, UK... w00tage! Posts: 43	i'm sorry this turned out to be a movie thread but i'd just like to say that (as a last say sort of thing) Legolas (Orlando Bloom) only did nothing in the film because it was his flippin' first film. He's a newbie just like me. __________________ Three rings for the Elven-kings under the sky, Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone, Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die, One for the Dark Lord on his throne In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie. One Ring to rule them all, One ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them, In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

05-08-2003, 05:10 PM	#30
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	the character of Legolas in the book wasn't too often mentioned (so I guess he wasn't that important in the movie either) ... we don't know that much about him __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

05-08-2003, 05:25 PM	#32
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I guess that had to have a main character (which was almost Aragorn). but we shoud go back to the book, really __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

05-06-2003, 04:26 PM	#27
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	As I was reading this, I was going to make the same comment as Khamul, but he beat me to it. If I had seen this when it was only the first two posts, I would have moved it to the other forum, but since then the discussion has turned from ambiguity to being basically about the character of Legolas (with a tangent discussion about Aragorn), so I'm leaving it here. Comments about movie Legolas can be made in one of the several threads about him in that forum.

05-08-2003, 02:34 PM	#29
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	There's no need to apologize -- I was just remarking that since it was placed here and the discussion has been less about the movie that I would be leaving it here.

05-08-2003, 05:21 PM	#31
Seladeen the Hobbit Sapling Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 5	the reason people think this is because legolas got a horriable part. i mean, to anyone who hasnt read the books and reliazed that he is REALLY cool and aragon the same. i dont go on either sides but the part in the movie (for legolas) sucked while aragons rocked hard core!

05-08-2003, 07:36 PM	#33
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Allright, my restraint is failing. Everybody, this thread is in the books forum. Either /stuff/ the films or get a mod to move this thread. Sowwy bout dat, folks. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

05-09-2003, 06:41 AM	#34
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	I thought the book Legolas was very funny. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

05-09-2003, 10:36 PM	#36
*azalea* Long lost mooter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3,342	Well, you see, the problem with that is that we have a strict policy here that ALL discussion of the movies be confined to the movie forum (see thread at top of this forum), since really, the movie is just an interpretation of TLotR. This forum is exclusively for discussion of the book, and the movie has no relevance here. That is why any movie discussion is confined to that forum. So as I said, the course of this particular discussion led us to analyzing the character of Legolas and his relations with the other members of the Fellowship. That is a perfectly legitimate discussion, and logically fits here. Again, the movie is irrelevant here (IOW, it is not appropriate to use movie Legolas in analyses of the book or in defense of arguments pertaining to the books, because the movie isn't the source material. Conversely, we do use instances from the book when discussing the movie in its forum, because the book is the source material.) There are, as I said, at least two or three threads in the movie forum that would be entirely appropriate to discuss Legolas as he is portrayed in the movies, and I encourage anyone who wishes to do so to, well, do so! But posting about the movie here makes no sense, because in this forum we discuss the books! Now doesn't that make sense, everyone? BTW, welcome to Entmoot, IthilienPrincess.

05-10-2003, 08:23 AM	#37
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	It makes sense, of course. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

05-10-2003, 01:00 PM	#40
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Sad, isn't it, that some people only watch those (erhem) movies without reading the books...But it's their own choice. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

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