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and i am very glad that the people of Australia didnt need to fight a war to ditch the English influence of our country (the commonwealth games, the Governer General etc) because we have the sense to see that they are not worth dying for,you imbecile, we VOTE on things and yes we VOTED about whether we should become a republic a few years back... i am proud to be a citizen of a country that was founded civily and the only smily i can find to throw at you is the rolleyes (and JD you have just shown why i find Americans intolerable )
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But- your Governor General is not elected is he? I was under the impression he was appointed by HM the Queen? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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thats why i said its part of the Engish influence
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Is this thread gonna become like the Best Guitarists thing with you two slinging mud at each other? Just want to know in advance so I can bring popcorn for the inevitable cockfight
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Well, those of us from Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc. etc. , however glad we are that we are not like the U.S., still probably owe much of our peaceful road to independence to the American Revolution.
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The British government supported the South; mostly out of a desire to damage American strength, but also out of a sympathy with the South's self-proclaimed aristocratic culture. ("The Education of Henry Adams" has some fascinating insights into this time) Public opinion was split- while there was antipathy to the US among the middle classes, they were also pretty solidly anti-slavery- one of the reasons for the issuing of the Emancipation Proclamation was to swing European public opinion behind the Union. The working classes in the industrial North (my ancestors) and Midlands were solidly pro-Union, and kept up a boycott on Southern cotton in the face of unemployment and starvation.
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There was a documentary a while ago on BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) saying How Britain Built the Modern World, saying lots of good things about the Empire for once.
It also challenged the traiditonal schoolteacher view taught to children that taxes etc were very unreasonable. And anyway, a significant number of Americans were Brits who came over so we are cousins anyway. America is the Poor Relation (!)
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By the way - Millane - you are the ignorant one. And I'm glad that I don't judge all Australians just because of you - otherwise I would not be able to talk to my "cousin" who lives in Bateman's Bay.
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You ARE however part of the British Empire. Who knows if at some point in time Britain may decide it wants to abolish your existing Constitution. They did that with our colonial charters - which is one of the reasons why we fought for independence. I doubt it will happen however- but I feel much safer not being part of Britain and I think it was the best thing for America.
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Sheesh! You know it's true what GrayMouser said, that the American War for Independence played a big factor in whether colonies under British rule would have to shed blood or not, thereafter. It was a costly and bloody war for both sides. The deciding factor was the determination of the Americans to win their independence.
Millane, the United States of America is not in any way shape or form controlled by the Brits. And we do not pay them taxes. However, I know that Canada (not sure about Australia and NZ) pay taxes to the Queen. Why do they tollerate it? I have no idea. Your comments about finding Americans intollerable was pretty shallow and petty. You don't even know me, and you are quick to judge me. |
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While it is true that the legislation states those things, in actuality it seldom happens. It's kind of like a lot of the US laws that everyone ignores. Like the sodomy one that was recently addressed. Sure, it was illegal in some states, but would that stop someone from practising?
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The sodomy law was taken up to the Supreme court who ruled that the government didn't have a role in people's bedrooms and declared those laws unconstitutional. Who do you go to if Britain and the Queen feels like instituting their rights? I noticed that it seems as if Australia can't even deny entry into it's ports by British warships (at least laws passed in Australia do not effect British warships). To me that doesn't seem like a fully independent country. No country's ships - Britain or anyone else can enter our waters without our permission and our laws stand.
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How do you feel (and you can include public opinion also) about those laws being on the books? |
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