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05-15-2002, 06:59 PM | #21 |
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not sure..gettin it from my memory but cant seem to remember where i read it..it might have been lost tales
well anyways..that variation is much better than the one in the silmarillion
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05-16-2002, 09:06 AM | #22 | |
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Amarie, well she didn't come to Middle-Earth so it;'s her fault but I still don't know how we got married without me knowing it.
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05-16-2002, 09:41 AM | #23 | |
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05-16-2002, 02:46 PM | #24 |
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oh yeah. Galadriel must've been visiting Melian in Doriath, she usually tried to keep me sober.
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05-17-2002, 03:11 PM | #25 |
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He chanted a song of wizardry. Otherwise you're spoty on. I've memorized that section as well.
It's more interesting if you read the Lays of Beleriand. HTere you can get the context, and some humorous dialogue from melkor and sauron.
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05-17-2002, 04:46 PM | #26 |
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What's humorous about it?
Though I think it is funny Felagund told Thû their names were Nereb and Dungalef.
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05-30-2002, 08:18 AM | #27 |
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I like Finrod, Fingon, Fingolfin, Ingwe, Turgon and Maedhros best, though I can't say why
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06-19-2002, 09:07 AM | #28 |
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As a Dwarf, but also the best friend of an elf, I have to say that I liked Thingol until he decided to lock Luthien in a tower. I liked Turgon, but then he went and got proud and wouldnt listen to Tuor. Eol is a........(finding a word that wont get me bannned)......not very pleseant person. Feanor is twisted, and my friend wishes he didnt die, but i m glad that he did. Yep, Id have to say that Finrod is my favourite, except i dont understand why he decided to help men so much, most men are.........( finding a word that wont get me bannned)......not very pleseant. Elrond is the wisest though.
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06-19-2002, 10:55 AM | #29 | |
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06-19-2002, 03:33 PM | #30 | |
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He saw the potential that Humankind has, both for good and evil. He was well aware of human flaws, but felt compassion for humans; yet, human virtues he admired.
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06-19-2002, 10:01 PM | #31 | |
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06-19-2002, 11:41 PM | #32 |
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Celeborn was considerably older than Elrond, so it follows that he might be wiser due to accumulated experience. Cirdan, while undoubtably wise, seemed to be constantly off at some haven or another while much of the action of the first three ages was taking place. Still, I'd say it's a close call between him and Celeborn.
Maybe Galadriel's just biased. Finrod is certainly the wisest elf of the First Age. He's by far my favorite elf in the Silmarillion. (Well, I admit it, I also have an irrational soft spot for Maedhros. He wasn't perfect, but he was a good guy at heart.)
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06-20-2002, 03:15 AM | #33 |
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When Galadriel said Celeborn the Wise was the wisest of the Eldar, her words were "He is accounted .." the wisest of the Eldar, emphasis mine. She was not the only one who thought him the wisest.
I think Celeborn's wisdom was prudence. CÃ*rdan had more to do with foresight. At the time of the War of the Ring, CÃ*rdan was probably the oldest Elf that was alive and living in Middle-earth. At least in the Northwestern region we're familiar with. It's interesting to note that CÃ*rdan and Celeborn belonged to the same family. Celeborn was Thingol's grand nephew, and CÃ*rdan is vaguely described as being of "the kin of Thingol" (the exact relationship is never made explicit). Hehe, then again, Celeborn and CÃ*rdan were both related to Elrond and Galadriel, weren't they? All the powerful Elves seem to be among the nobles, for some reason.
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06-20-2002, 04:41 AM | #34 |
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Ahh, elitism. It must be a class thing. Well, i still like elrond, but Finrod is best in early years.
Talking of family and kin.... how is celeborn related to legolas? I know that celeborn and thranduil are related to elrond and thingol, but what is their own relationship, second cousin three times removed?
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06-21-2002, 01:44 PM | #35 |
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I know that Oropher, Legolas's granddaddy, was a Sindar, but was he related to Thingol? He could have been. I just don't know.
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06-21-2002, 05:47 PM | #36 |
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Oropher and the sindar that went with him were originally from Doriath, but there isn’t any indication (that I’m aware off) that he and Thingol were kin.
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06-21-2002, 05:59 PM | #37 | |
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On the other hand, Legolas was also a Sinda. So by "kindred" Celeborn could have simply meant "Grey-elves". If Legolas and Celeborn were related, it would have to be very distantly indeed.
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06-24-2002, 06:53 AM | #38 |
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oh, okay thank you, i was told that the distant kin of thingol, after doriath was destroyed, created thenew elven realms, ie in lorien and mirkwood, in rememberance of their fair home of old.
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06-29-2002, 05:21 PM | #39 |
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Gil-Galad and Finrod.
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Turgon is the coolest by far he even had the sense to build a beautiful hidden city with fountains and stuff but he was stupid and didn't listen to Tuor's warning stupid elf
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