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Old 02-06-2004, 03:29 PM   #21
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Lol, didn't read it properly. Brussels could still be on the list though - it seemed like a good city for expatriates to me. Good beer prices
I hear all the MEPs seem to like it
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:29 PM   #22
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Vancouver was ranked? Yea us! The city of Vancouver is beautifully built, very culturally diverse, has great natural beauty and many sporting opportunities. However, I think we need to do more for social welfare. It is a wonderful place to live.
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Old 02-06-2004, 03:29 PM   #23
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OMG! Val you are actually trying to compare NY pizza to that Chicago deep dish crap? SACRILEGE!!! I will let you slide since you are from Chicago. However, I am even more disappointed in brownjenkins saying they are neck and neck, and being from NY and an East Coaster. Shame on you! Bad bad bad brownjenkins!

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Old 02-06-2004, 05:03 PM   #24
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Best cities to travel to (2003 rankings)

1 Sydney 87.62
2 Florence 87.14
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7 San Francisco 83.86
8 Venice 83.23
9 Istanbul 83.18
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1. New York City (93.97)
2. New Orleans (93.56)
3. San Francisco (93.18)
4. Paris (91.33)
5. Rome (89.25)

According to this listing, Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA is number 10. It's a beautiful city in a breathtaking setting, full of the history and lore of the Old West. There are also more galleries and artists there than amost anywhere else on the planet. The shops and boutiques are Nirvana for independent shopaholics (those who eschew shopping malls) and the climate in the mountains of the high desert is ideal. My dad lives in Albuquerque, which is about 70 miles away, and Albuquerque is pretty great, too.

Unfortunately, I'm stuck in Winterland with two feet of snow on the ground, freezing rain and road salt corroding my new car.

My two cents on the Great Pizza Debate -- Chicago, hands down.
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:15 PM   #25
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:35 PM   #26
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Wow! I was very surprised when I saw Helsinki on number 13! *very satisfied*
And I love Stockholm. But I'm not supposed to say that, as a finn. But it's a fact.
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Old 02-06-2004, 07:39 PM   #27
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Troy, AL isn't on the list. Big surprise there.
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Old 02-06-2004, 07:54 PM   #28
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(EDIT: PS Lin, is that like an Australian group ranking those cities? And howscum Chicago was not properly and prominently mentioned? In fact, yous gots to go a long ways down your list to see any American city... and the first one shown is way out in Haw-wah-yah! What's up widdat??? )
What's up wid da way yer talkin'?
No, as GrayMouser has already pointed out, it was ranked by the Economist Intelligence Unit. That is just an article from the Herald Sun website. (The Herald Sun is the most prominent Australian newspaper, from Melbourne. It's a news pictorial and more popular than The Age, though the latter has the reputation of being more informative). I heard about it on the radio news yesterday morning.

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I've never been to Australia, so it looks like I'm missing out on five of the best cities in the world...
Best cities to live in, not necessarily to visit, probably largely because it's not that expensive to live here. The other cities mentioned are nice enough, I guess. Adelaide has the reputation for being a city of churches and Perth is so far away, it's far smaller than Melbourne. Brisbane is beautiful though! You must go to Brisbane if you visit Australia! Anyone been there? Surfers Paradise...*drool*
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Old 02-06-2004, 08:04 PM   #29
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Re: Best City in the World

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Once again, Melbourne has been named (one of) the best cities in the world to live in. Despite being infamous for the '4 (Australian) seasons in a Day' weather, we still came out on top with Vancouver and Vienna.
It's not really the "best cities to live in" - it's the "best cities for expatriates to live in" and since it's the Sun - I assume it's British.

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Has anyone else been to/lived in any of the other ranked cities? Do you think they are worthy of their ranking? My city of course deserves its title, as I've constantly reminded people how much better it is than Sydney. Good to see a lot of the other Australia capitals; Perth, Adelaide, Sydney and Brisbane, are ranked in the top 15 too. Go Australia!
It would make sense that either european or cities that make up the british Empire - would be the ones british people would prefer to live.
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Old 02-06-2004, 08:10 PM   #30
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It would make sense that either european or cities that make up the british Empire - would be the ones british people would prefer to live.
So you think it's biased?

Would you British people nowadays prefer to reside in a city in Australia than one in the US because we're part of the Commonwealth? Does it really make a difference? Because I don't think I'd think more highly of a British city simply because we're a 'colony'.
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Old 02-06-2004, 08:21 PM   #31
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So you think it's biased?

Would you British people nowadays prefer to reside in a city in Australia than one in the US because we're part of the Commonwealth? Does it really make a difference? Because I don't think I'd think more highly of a British city simply because we're a 'colony'.
I don't think it's biased - I just think that it is human nature to want tor live where one feels at home - this entails having similar political systems, laws, government, etc. Australia and Canada are much more like Britain than the US is.

[EDIT]What I meant by "it's British" - I was just saying that they must mean British expatriates when they say "expatriates".
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:43 PM   #32
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Vancouver was ranked? Yea us! The city of Vancouver is beautifully built, very culturally diverse, has great natural beauty and many sporting opportunities. However, I think we need to do more for social welfare. It is a wonderful place to live.
Yay for Vancouver! You forgot to mention the sushi. I'm not actually very partial to it (even the cooked stuff), but I'm told that it is fantastic.

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Old 02-06-2004, 10:08 PM   #33
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Yes, vancouvers number 2. I live in the suberbs, do they include that as being part of Vancouver and other cities? one thing i dont get is how did toronto make the list, the city sucks . I liked montreal when i went there last year, i miss the lebanese(sp) food
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Old 02-07-2004, 05:37 AM   #34
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I don't think the suburbs are included, Surrey, Richmond, Maple Ridge, Abbotsford, Langley, and New Westminister are all cities in their own right. Though, it's all referred to as Greater Vancouver.
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Old 02-07-2004, 05:59 AM   #35
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I don't think the suburbs are included, Surrey, Richmond, Maple Ridge, Abbotsford, Langley, and New Westminister are all cities in their own right. Though, it's all referred to as Greater Vancouver.
Are they really city-cities or just those areas of a city also called cities? We have lots of cities in Melbourne too, like the City of Kingston (where I live, but that's not a suburb, it's a group of suburbs). And that's not even an electorate (ours is Hotham), it's a 'city'.

We have a suburb called Richmond too! Nice having cities/towns with the same names.
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the one thing i like about vancouver is probably just goin for the fireworks in the summer. but other then that vancouver seems to busy. cant believe melbourne beat us out though
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OMG! Val you are actually trying to compare NY pizza to that Chicago deep dish crap? SACRILEGE!!! I will let you slide since you are from Chicago. However, I am even more disappointed in brownjenkins saying they are neck and neck, and being from NY and an East Coaster. Shame on you! Bad bad bad brownjenkins!
I agree 100%. Nothing beats New Jersey pizza. My cousins didn't realize how good the pizza i here until I took them to the Midwest - including Chicago to Uno's. I hate Uno's in Chicago. I like the chain Uno's places - but the service sucks at Uno's in Chicago. But while I'm in NJ I will only eat NJ pizza.

[EDIT] Of course nothing beats my homemade pizza from scratch made on a pizza stone.
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Okay, what kind of pizza are we talking here? Thin and crispy? Cheesey?
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