Balrogs: How large are they? - Page 2

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 10-11-2002, 12:38 PM

Couldn't the Balrog have had a larger then Man sized structure? It seems as though the Balrog was capable of useing maybe the power of illusion with darkness, but yet it was a impentetrable thing. The battle with Fingon makes me think this.

"Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs, High Captain of Angband was come, and he drove a dark wedge between the Elven hosts surrounding King Fingon, and thrusting Turgon and Hurin aside toward the Fen of Serech."

So it seems that they remain the same size but manipulate darkness.

Wayfarer · 10-11-2002, 12:43 PM

I always pictured them as a man shaped umbra with a semisolid perumbra.

Ms. Undomial · 10-11-2002, 12:51 PM

The first time I read the books, I thought that they were about the size of a hobbit, and bounced around holding a whip and a soward(sp). I was amazed when I saw it in the movie. it was Huge!

Treebeard's apprentice · 10-11-2002, 01:06 PM

LOL!

Sorry, I don't mean to laugh at your interpretation of the balrogs. Everyone has a different imagination and can 'see' things as they want, but...

Wow, hobbit-size! AHA ha ha! I think it would be funny and scary at the same time. I keep imagining a little gremlin-type thing running around really fast and growling. Sorry, but that is way too funny!

Wayfarer · 10-11-2002, 01:22 PM

Hah! Gandalf! I shall kick your shins and bite your kneecaps, and then stab you in the foot!

zavron · 10-11-2002, 04:28 PM

I could just picture gandalf standing n the bridge of khazad-dum fighting with a bouncing yoda with a light saber
gandalf "you cannot pass !!!"
balrog a.k.a. yoda "me cannot pass gandalf says he does!WAHEY WEE BOING BOING BOING!!!"yoda jumping up and hitting gandalf on the head.
gandalf "Quit it, QUIT IT!! OH BUZZ OFF YOU LITTLE FLY!!!!"whack
gandalf hits yoda and yoda falls on the ground gandalf starts laughing trips up falls on yoda and squishes him!! bridge collapses.

THE END

Quote:

Never laugh at live dragons!!!

zavron

Ms. Undomial · 10-11-2002, 04:29 PM

Yea, I suppose a hobbit size balrog would be pretty funny. if it was in the movie than i am sure everyone would be thinking:

"wow! a hobbit size balrog! Now why are they scared of that?? it must have pretty sharp teeth!"

just a thought...

Have any of you heard "little bunny fu-fu" ?? well how about "little bunny Balrog" ?? something like this:

"Little jumping Balrog hopping through the forest
picking up the fellowship and bopping em' on the head!"

osszie · 10-11-2002, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Ms. Undomial
The first time I read the books, I thought that they were about the size of a hobbit, and bounced around holding a whip and a soward(sp). I was amazed when I saw it in the movie. it was Huge!

lol.......

Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, on the bridge of Kazad-dum waving her umberella under Gangalfs nose........about as near to a hobbit-sized Balrog as I can imagine

Good point tho', Balrogs are as big or as small as your imagination wants them to be

Ñólendil · 10-11-2002, 07:47 PM

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Balrogs are as big or as small as your imagination wants them to be

Quite true. Nothing I can say will make this statement untrue, but I offer some (fittingly) vague evidences.

1. According to Tolkien in The Road Goes Ever On (I will quote it if so requested), when the Valar took on humanoid forms, they were never gigantic. Taller than the tallest of Elves or Men one can be sure (and the tallest was Thingol, but we don't know how tall he was), but not gigantic. Morgoth, Tolkien said, was "ogre-sized". Sauron also was one who Tolkien said, when he took on humane form, was not gigantic.

2. The words used in the Lord of the Rings to described the size and shape of The Balrog are "of man-shape maybe, yet greater". That's all we got.

Put 1 and 2 together. I don't think our Balrog will come to so much as 20 feet, and I would venture to say even between 10-15 feet tall, not taking into account the fire and darkness surrounding it.

Lefty Scaevola · 10-11-2002, 08:06 PM

The one I saw on the 70 IMAX theater screen looked reallllly big. If it had been in 3D as well, half the seats would have been wet.

Radagast The Brown · 10-12-2002, 04:17 PM

on my Lotr book there is a balrog picture, and it looks like a man, just a burning man, with a sword and a whip. It was taller then a man, but looks like a man.

I imagined them looking like a dragon, just burning one.

Aeryn · 10-12-2002, 09:20 PM

Well, what about...balrog babies...?

Or runts...or balrogs with stunted growth...don't forget them!

*snickers* Hobbit size balrog...

well I sorta make a similar mistake, the sizes between hobbits and dwarves...aren't dwarves supposed to be bigger?

Wayfarer, lovely sig.

Radagast The Brown · 10-13-2002, 07:09 AM

I think there aren't any baby Balrogs. Balrogs don't have babies.

zavron · 10-13-2002, 08:19 AM

It would be strange if there were balrog babies. Deep in the mines of moria a baby balrog jumping about in a cot "whaa!!!"sets a teddy bear on fire"wheeee HA!!! burnie!!! BURNIE!!!!"

Quote:

Never laugh at live dragons!!!

zavron

Blackheart · 10-14-2002, 04:07 PM

If there are Balrog babies...

That means Balrog Sex.

Nuff said.

Treebeard's apprentice · 10-14-2002, 07:38 PM

AHHHHHHH! Balrog sex! *shivers uncontrollably* Yuck.

Blackheart · 10-15-2002, 11:31 AM

Oh how would you know...

10-11-2002, 12:43 PM	#22
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I always pictured them as a man shaped umbra with a semisolid perumbra. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

10-11-2002, 12:51 PM	#23
Ms. Undomial Custous Sanctus Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your subconsicious.... Posts: 1,184	The first time I read the books, I thought that they were about the size of a hobbit, and bounced around holding a whip and a soward(sp). I was amazed when I saw it in the movie. it was Huge! __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Dune Last edited by Ms. Undomial : 10-11-2002 at 04:40 PM.

10-11-2002, 01:22 PM	#25
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	Hah! Gandalf! I shall kick your shins and bite your kneecaps, and then stab you in the foot! __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

10-11-2002, 04:29 PM	#27
Ms. Undomial Custous Sanctus Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your subconsicious.... Posts: 1,184	Yea, I suppose a hobbit size balrog would be pretty funny. if it was in the movie than i am sure everyone would be thinking: "wow! a hobbit size balrog! Now why are they scared of that?? it must have pretty sharp teeth!" just a thought... Have any of you heard "little bunny fu-fu" ?? well how about "little bunny Balrog" ?? something like this: "Little jumping Balrog hopping through the forest picking up the fellowship and bopping em' on the head!" __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Dune Last edited by Ms. Undomial : 10-11-2002 at 11:51 PM.

10-11-2002, 08:06 PM	#30
Lefty Scaevola AngAdan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Boerne, Texas Posts: 856	The one I saw on the 70 IMAX theater screen looked reallllly big. If it had been in 3D as well, half the seats would have been wet. Last edited by Lefty Scaevola : 10-12-2002 at 11:57 PM.

10-11-2002, 12:38 PM	#21
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	Couldn't the Balrog have had a larger then Man sized structure? It seems as though the Balrog was capable of useing maybe the power of illusion with darkness, but yet it was a impentetrable thing. The battle with Fingon makes me think this. "Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs, High Captain of Angband was come, and he drove a dark wedge between the Elven hosts surrounding King Fingon, and thrusting Turgon and Hurin aside toward the Fen of Serech." So it seems that they remain the same size but manipulate darkness.

10-11-2002, 01:06 PM	#24
Treebeard's apprentice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 207	LOL! Sorry, I don't mean to laugh at your interpretation of the balrogs. Everyone has a different imagination and can 'see' things as they want, but... Wow, hobbit-size! AHA ha ha! I think it would be funny and scary at the same time. I keep imagining a little gremlin-type thing running around really fast and growling. Sorry, but that is way too funny!

10-12-2002, 04:17 PM	#31
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	on my Lotr book there is a balrog picture, and it looks like a man, just a burning man, with a sword and a whip. It was taller then a man, but looks like a man. I imagined them looking like a dragon, just burning one. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

10-12-2002, 09:20 PM	#32
Aeryn Bank'ress of Sith Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a hot-hot place, heh Posts: 913	little balrog? Well, what about...balrog babies...? Or runts...or balrogs with stunted growth...don't forget them! snickers Hobbit size balrog... well I sorta make a similar mistake, the sizes between hobbits and dwarves...aren't dwarves supposed to be bigger? Wayfarer, lovely sig. __________________ my new account name feigndeath. This one is deactivated, I think.

10-13-2002, 07:09 AM	#33
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I think there aren't any baby Balrogs. Balrogs don't have babies. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

10-14-2002, 04:07 PM	#35
Blackheart Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Darkness Posts: 1,211	If there are Balrog babies... That means Balrog Sex. Nuff said. __________________ I have harnessed the shadows that stride from world to world to sow death and madness... Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye -- As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun ta make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy -- here, set still, what's ailin' ye? ...

10-14-2002, 07:38 PM	#36
Treebeard's apprentice Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 207	AHHHHHHH! Balrog sex! shivers uncontrollably Yuck.

10-15-2002, 11:31 AM	#37
Blackheart Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Darkness Posts: 1,211	Oh how would you know... __________________ I have harnessed the shadows that stride from world to world to sow death and madness... Queer haow a cravin' gits a holt on ye -- As ye love the Almighty, young man, don't tell nobody, but I swar ter Gawd thet picter begun ta make me hungry fer victuals I couldn't raise nor buy -- here, set still, what's ailin' ye? ...

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