Mirkwood Elves or Lorien elves? - Page 2

Dolenloteiel · 08-13-2002, 12:26 PM

The Mirkwood elves held a great deal of fascination for me. But when I read LOTR 1, I fell in love with Lothlorien. It's strange mysterious, melancholy air connected with me. I loved Galadriel as well, and the Lament for Gandalf. Lothlorien, Hands down.

A Vanimar

Galenavar · 08-13-2002, 06:17 PM

Okay, I can't really say which I perfer out of those choices, because I love them both! Mirkwood always intrigued me, what with the danger, Legolas, the one of the best parts of the Hobbit, in my opinion, was when they were passing through Mirkwood. I love Thranduil. (I think he's king?) Don't know why.

Now, as for Lothlorien, ohhhh, you've got the beauty, the emotion, Galadriel, I just get so relaxed and in a state of...I don't know, almost zen state when ever I read or see that scene.

All in all, they are both wonderful elves.

Willow Oran · 08-14-2002, 12:38 AM

I like both Mirkwood and Lothlorien. But why are we limited to those two as choices? What about Imladris, and Mithlond? My very favorite of the four is Imladris. I love the description of it in The Hobbit as a place of learning and merriment. As for the time of the war of the ring, Imladris seems a far safer place to be than Lothlorien or Mirkwood, they both have Dol Guldur for a neighbor whereas Imladris has a mountain range between them and Sauron's main strongholds.

joe · 08-14-2002, 01:41 AM

I think, Lothlorien was greater (and more beautiful), because Galadriel posessed one of the three elven rings. The Disadvantage of Mirkwood was the very near of Dol Guldur and the power of the Dark Lord.

afro-elf · 08-14-2002, 03:12 AM

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But why are we limited to those two as choices

Because as the thread starter I like the Elf realms East of the Misty Mountians. I also like Mirkwood. But, I'm I'm not a big fan of Lorien.

I can articulate why I like Mithlond and Rivendell; however, I can not articulate why I like Mirkwood and dislike Lorien. This thread was born to assist me with this.

Ñólendil · 08-14-2002, 03:27 AM

Perhaps you feel Mirkwood, or rather the Woodland Realm, offers just enough Elvish enchantment whilst remaining a little closer to home?

afro-elf · 08-14-2002, 04:13 AM

Here is a why to descibe it. I can see Strider living in Mirkwood whilst King Elessar would relax in Lorien.

Lorien is too glamourous. ( in both meanings of the word)
I see it as a place of artsy fartsy wanna-be posers. Just a bunch of Galadriel syncophants. Too much pomp.

To use anachronyms:

In Lorien they waltz. In Mirkwood they Salsa.

In Lorien they eat at five star restaurants. In Mirkwood you have good cook outs.

They wear their hair up in Lorien. Their hair is down in Mirkwood.

In Lorien they are Upper Middle Class striving to be Upper Class.

In Mirkwood they are Middle Class and content.

The girls in Lorien are high maintenance and the ones in Mirkwood are low maintenance.

Galenavar · 08-14-2002, 01:46 PM

Hmmm, that is an interesting way to look at it. I will agree with you ona few of those points:
In Lorien they waltz. In Mirkwood they Salsa.
In Lorien they eat at five star restaurants. In Mirkwood you have good cook outs.
They wear their hair up in Lorien. Their hair is down in Mirkwood.

Those are all reasons why I can't choose between one or the other. Sometimes you feel like going all fancy and waltzing, and sometimes you just need to let your hair down and salsa.

Claenoic · 08-14-2002, 08:01 PM

Mirkwood. Dunno why. Probably because of A-E's reasons. More exciting. You've got to hand it to Thranders though; He's the only one who didn't make a kingdom with a ring. And it was put on the map. Amazing.

EDIT: And A-E, I believe that's g-l-a-m-o-r-o-u-s.

Sicirus · 08-14-2002, 10:26 PM

Lothlorien, Cause i know more about them then Mirkwood and it seems like quite the place to go for friendly people. it seems safe and beautiful. Pluse it would be a real treat to see elves.

Starr Polish · 08-14-2002, 11:30 PM

C'mon, he spelled it the British way (I think, and no offense to the British, either, I love spelling things with an extra u).

I agree, it is fairly amazing that Thranduil managed to put an elf kingdom on the map without a ring, and manage to survive the Necromancer and it's effects.

afro-elf · 08-15-2002, 02:08 PM

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EDIT: And A-E, I believe that's g-l-a-m-o-r-o-u-s.

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C'mon, he spelled it the British way

Starr is correct here Claenoic.

As to Thranduil he inherited the realm from his father Orodpher (sp?)

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 08-15-2002, 05:29 PM

AE, I know that Fingolfin is a hero of yours. Which realm do you think he would have prefered had he lived?

Ñólendil · 08-15-2002, 05:45 PM

Oropher.

Reumandar · 08-29-2002, 04:25 PM

who can choose between the two?
In Lóthlorien it would be cool to see stuff and It would also be cool to go to Mirkwood and see more stuff

(if you get my meaning; if not it's understandable I'm weird)

thingol · 08-30-2002, 02:31 AM

i have always liked mirkwood most i dont know why but lorien is soo sad

afro-elf · 08-30-2002, 03:38 AM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
AE, I know that Fingolfin is a hero of yours. Which realm do you think he would have prefered had he lived?

Sorry, I just saw your reply.

Thank you for an intriguing question.

I've been a bit trying to think how to answer this. There are a million things that went through my mind. But, the key word was "lived" not ruled. .Then I would say Mirkwood. Eventhough there was a Balrog near Lorien,b eing the valiant type that he was, I think that late TA Mirkwood would offer more feats of heroism with the Dol Guldor, spiders, orcs and other fell things in the wood. I think he would go on a crusade.

UnStashable · 08-30-2002, 10:19 AM

I think Mirkwood would be better because you could also visit the dwarves of the lonely Mountain or Men under the rule of dale. I also think that the elves of mirkwood loosened up after the death of smaug and, the battle of the 5 armies which led to improved elf/dwarf/human relations.

Telperion · 09-01-2002, 11:25 PM

Well, lets see. Lothlorien is very beautiful, and Galadriel is wonderful but the elves there are detached from the rest of middle earth.
Mirkwood, hmm wel the only examples of elves from Mirkwood that I have are Legolas and the elves in the hobbits. Legolas is great but the elves in the hobbit are very greedy and vain.
i would have to say Lothlorien. {though I am tempted to learn more about Mirkwood.}

Rûdhaglarien · 09-02-2002, 01:53 AM

Lothlorien. Ever since I first heard of it... its beauty, Galadriel... I've wanted to live there, so I guess I like the Elves from there better as well. It's so beautiful....

08-13-2002, 12:26 PM	#21
Dolenloteiel I elenfea Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Somewhere in the chaos between the first and second ages! (Actually, CO) Posts: 556	ELVES The Mirkwood elves held a great deal of fascination for me. But when I read LOTR 1, I fell in love with Lothlorien. It's strange mysterious, melancholy air connected with me. I loved Galadriel as well, and the Lament for Gandalf. Lothlorien, Hands down. A Vanimar __________________ "Middle Earth is a real place. And it is New Zealand." Sir Ian McKellan **************************** QUESTION AUTHORITY Ask me anything ************************** "I have not failed, I've only found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas Edison ************************** Visit Tolkien RP Site! Need members, RP all three Ages! (UNDER CONSTRUCTION) http://elvellon.suddenlaunch2.com **************************** "Yay, I can hear the voices in my head again!

08-13-2002, 06:17 PM	#22
Galenavar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: WI Posts: 129	Okay, I can't really say which I perfer out of those choices, because I love them both! Mirkwood always intrigued me, what with the danger, Legolas, the one of the best parts of the Hobbit, in my opinion, was when they were passing through Mirkwood. I love Thranduil. (I think he's king?) Don't know why. Now, as for Lothlorien, ohhhh, you've got the beauty, the emotion, Galadriel, I just get so relaxed and in a state of...I don't know, almost zen state when ever I read or see that scene. All in all, they are both wonderful elves. __________________ Galenavar Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo If there's no magic, there's no meaning.

08-14-2002, 12:38 AM	#23
Willow Oran Deus Ex Machina Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,951	I like both Mirkwood and Lothlorien. But why are we limited to those two as choices? What about Imladris, and Mithlond? My very favorite of the four is Imladris. I love the description of it in The Hobbit as a place of learning and merriment. As for the time of the war of the ring, Imladris seems a far safer place to be than Lothlorien or Mirkwood, they both have Dol Guldur for a neighbor whereas Imladris has a mountain range between them and Sauron's main strongholds. __________________ "5. Plain Rings with RUNES on the inside. Avoid these like the PLAGUE. -Diana Wynne Jones Tough Guide To FantasyLand ...it's not much of a show if somebody doesn't suffer, and preferably at length. Suffering is beautiful in any case, and so is anguish; but as for loathing, and bitterness... I don't think they belong on the stage at all. - Isabella, I Gelosi

08-14-2002, 03:27 AM	#26
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Perhaps you feel Mirkwood, or rather the Woodland Realm, offers just enough Elvish enchantment whilst remaining a little closer to home? __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

08-14-2002, 04:13 AM	#27
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Maybe this it Here is a why to descibe it. I can see Strider living in Mirkwood whilst King Elessar would relax in Lorien. Lorien is too glamourous. ( in both meanings of the word) I see it as a place of artsy fartsy wanna-be posers. Just a bunch of Galadriel syncophants. Too much pomp. To use anachronyms: In Lorien they waltz. In Mirkwood they Salsa. In Lorien they eat at five star restaurants. In Mirkwood you have good cook outs. They wear their hair up in Lorien. Their hair is down in Mirkwood. In Lorien they are Upper Middle Class striving to be Upper Class. In Mirkwood they are Middle Class and content. The girls in Lorien are high maintenance and the ones in Mirkwood are low maintenance. __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

08-14-2002, 01:41 AM	#24
joe Sapling Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: germany Posts: 7	I think, Lothlorien was greater (and more beautiful), because Galadriel posessed one of the three elven rings. The Disadvantage of Mirkwood was the very near of Dol Guldur and the power of the Dark Lord.

08-14-2002, 01:46 PM	#28
Galenavar Elven Warrior Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: WI Posts: 129	Hmmm, that is an interesting way to look at it. I will agree with you ona few of those points: In Lorien they waltz. In Mirkwood they Salsa. In Lorien they eat at five star restaurants. In Mirkwood you have good cook outs. They wear their hair up in Lorien. Their hair is down in Mirkwood. Those are all reasons why I can't choose between one or the other. Sometimes you feel like going all fancy and waltzing, and sometimes you just need to let your hair down and salsa. __________________ Galenavar Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo If there's no magic, there's no meaning.

08-14-2002, 08:01 PM	#29
Claenoic Queen of Prolonged, Unexplained Absences Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Texas. 'Nuff said. Posts: 556	Mirkwood. Dunno why. Probably because of A-E's reasons. More exciting. You've got to hand it to Thranders though; He's the only one who didn't make a kingdom with a ring. And it was put on the map. Amazing. EDIT: And A-E, I believe that's g-l-a-m-o-r-o-u-s. __________________ Very Biased Alternate Script (but it's funny!):Click here! FREAK RAIN!!!!!!!! O.o Queen of prolonged unexplained absences and long, loooong car rides. Well, hullo everyone. As you can see, I don't hang out here muchly anymore. There's a good reason for this. Y'see, I've been hanging out at a different chatboard called Cardboardia. So far, I've been havin' a blast. Not that I don't love the TLA, but the magic of Entmoot is lost on me. So, as soon as TLA ends, so will my existance here, probably. Who knows though? I might stay. Highly unlikely however. This is a good bye in advance, then. Unless you want to join me and my group of friends at Cardboardia. Cheers! Last edited by Claenoic : 08-14-2002 at 08:03 PM.

08-14-2002, 10:26 PM	#30
Sicirus Elf Lord Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Down the road on your left...No your other left. Posts: 1,825	Lothlorien, Cause i know more about them then Mirkwood and it seems like quite the place to go for friendly people. it seems safe and beautiful. Pluse it would be a real treat to see elves. __________________ "I know less then half of you half as well as I should like. And I like less then half of you half as well as you deserve." Bilbo Baggins

08-14-2002, 11:30 PM	#31
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	C'mon, he spelled it the British way (I think, and no offense to the British, either, I love spelling things with an extra u). I agree, it is fairly amazing that Thranduil managed to put an elf kingdom on the map without a ring, and manage to survive the Necromancer and it's effects. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

08-15-2002, 05:29 PM	#33
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	AE, I know that Fingolfin is a hero of yours. Which realm do you think he would have prefered had he lived?

08-15-2002, 05:45 PM	#34
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	Oropher. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

08-29-2002, 04:25 PM	#35
Reumandar Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Land of Fire and Ice ('Tis a country You will never guess it) Posts: 103	who can choose between the two? In Lóthlorien it would be cool to see stuff and It would also be cool to go to Mirkwood and see more stuff (if you get my meaning; if not it's understandable I'm weird) __________________ If envy were an illness the whole world would be sick (old Danish proverb) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Then Thorondor bore up Glorfindel's body out of the abyss, and they buried him in a mound of stones beside the pass; and a green turf came there, and yellow flowers bloomed upon it amid the barrenness of stone, until the world was changed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh Potter you Rotter, Oh what have you done Your killing off the students, you think it's good fun

08-30-2002, 02:31 AM	#36
thingol Hobbit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: norway,stord Posts: 30	i have always liked mirkwood most i dont know why but lorien is soo sad

08-30-2002, 10:19 AM	#38
UnStashable Enting Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 52	I think Mirkwood would be better because you could also visit the dwarves of the lonely Mountain or Men under the rule of dale. I also think that the elves of mirkwood loosened up after the death of smaug and, the battle of the 5 armies which led to improved elf/dwarf/human relations. __________________ This elevator only goes to the basement, and sombody made an awful mess down there

09-01-2002, 11:25 PM	#39
Telperion Enting Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 78	Well, lets see. Lothlorien is very beautiful, and Galadriel is wonderful but the elves there are detached from the rest of middle earth. Mirkwood, hmm wel the only examples of elves from Mirkwood that I have are Legolas and the elves in the hobbits. Legolas is great but the elves in the hobbit are very greedy and vain. i would have to say Lothlorien. {though I am tempted to learn more about Mirkwood.} __________________ Wherever you go, there you are. Aim for the stars, if you miss, you'll at least land on the moon! He who is made of air should not accuse the wind. My mind wanders. "Not all those who wander are lost." Therefore, my mind is not lost. Now, my question to those of you who doubt my sanity is this: How can someone who has not lost their mind be insane?

09-02-2002, 01:53 AM	#40
Rûdhaglarien Elven Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 288	Lothlorien. Ever since I first heard of it... its beauty, Galadriel... I've wanted to live there, so I guess I like the Elves from there better as well. It's so beautiful.... __________________ I have a very expensive pen.

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