05-21-2004, 03:32 PM | #21 |
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Nahh, you should see it. [Edited] aside, it's definatley worth the few bucks to walk in the door. make sure you have heaps of popcorn, though...,
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05-21-2004, 05:46 PM | #22 |
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I thougth it was great. I'd like to see it again! I thought Brad Pitt was great as Achilles. (disregard all the nude scenes) Eric Bana was great and Sean Bean too. Great fight scenes and good points made as well. I felt for the characters and it was saddening to think that this occured in history. (and this is only one event) What a waste.
The love scenes were kind of boring and Orlando, ha it was great to see him as a wimp, hilarious. But I loved Legolas' debut
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05-22-2004, 03:02 AM | #24 |
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No it isn't. It sucksass. Now, if you want to see GOOD Brad Pitt, then Fight Club or 12 Monkeys are the films to see.
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I saw Troy last night and I liked it. It had its weaknesses, but it was well worth the money. I enjoyed (if you can use the word 'enjoy' about a war like this) the battle scenes, and the fight between Hector and Achilles was very good. The acting wasn't that bad as I had expected after reading some of the reviews. Peter O'Toole was great as Priam and so was Bana as Hector. OK, Pitt could have been better as Achilles, but, he looked gorgeous. Yes he did! Sean Bean did a respectable job as Odysseus. So did the woman who played Andromake, whoever that was.
Bloom did a weak performance as Paris. It was almost like a parody. And Aeneas looked like a teenager. I also think they didn't have to let Agamemnon and Menelaos behaving so lowly all the time.
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Oh, and Attention everyone! Troy in 15 minutes! Lots of SPOILERS (though there shouldn't be any need to say that. ) Small SPOILER:
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Troy in Fifteen minutes was great.
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05-23-2004, 01:55 PM | #29 |
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saw it last night and orlando bloom will be labeled an elf his whole life, i could see him movies without having anything to do with bow and arrows but im sure they will work some sort of elf thing into every movie he does eric bana is a crazy actor, just that before troy he played a geeky nerd guy and now he plays one of the best warriors in the world, sean bean was good too. whenever i saw the actor playing agamenmon (sorry i dont know his name) i just kept seeing stryker from x-men2. overall it was good,i cant say if it stuck to the illiad seeing as i have never read it, but all the effects were good, overall it was pretty good
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Yeah, I guessTroy would be nice to see.
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It was pretty good, but nothing exceptional. And for me there were a few "close your eyes" parts. Many battle scenes were reminescent of LoTR. Hector was amazing. Brad Pitt as Achilles seemed to be in it just for his looks and fame; but there wasn't much he could do with the blunt script (at some points). Hmm...., they kind of "demythologized" it, took out so much that was credited to the gods. There was a lot of violence, but it wasn't very bloody (only a few bits of gore here and there). And most of it came straight from the Illiad (by Homer) and the Aenid (by Virgil). I didn't realize so much of the smaller happenings/parts actually "took place" (from Homer and Virgil's poems/stories). I really liked just the massiveness of some of the scenes. And I hated Achilles with a passion! Who care's if he's Brad Pitt! Homer portrayed him a lot nicer than the movie.
I'd give it 3 out of 4 stars.
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Mercutio, you might what to see if you can find a non censured article of the Iliad.
Achilles does refuse to fight and IIRC Protrolus is his lover not cousin, he ( Achilles) tell a Trojan warrior to "sumbit to his caress or die" and I also believe he has his way with Penthesilia AFTER he has killed her. This just to give a more Homeric view of the character as opposed to movie view. I will try to verify the above info. |
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One quick thing I found:
The story of the invulnerability of Achilles is not found in Homer, and is inconsistent with his account. For how could Achilles require the aid of celestial armour if he were invulnerable? [see sources: Library of Apollodorus 3.13.6 and Notes] |
05-25-2004, 01:52 PM | #37 |
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Saw the making of last night. Looks great.
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The guys at Hollywood used the Illiad and Euripide's Trojan Woman as toilet paper in their script. It was a bad omen in trying to make that movie without the gods. They took the soul out of it.
Agamemnon was portrayed more diabolically than I thought possible. Achilles was the ultimate prima donna. The plot was really bad, the acting worse, the script was missing. The fights were cool tho. Quote:
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I didn't go into the movie expecting the Iliad for the same reason you don't walk into just any biographical picture about Julius Caesar and complain that the lines aren't from Shakespeare. I enjoyed the movie a lot more because of it. It's flawed, and it's no masterpiece, but only very rarely did it outright suck.
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