11-10-2002, 03:28 AM | #21 |
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Well, obviously NZ has this thing with low population numbers, but I seem to remember a lot of people marching on the beehive when the whole Milosovich saga was going on. People *do* care, but does it make the news? Not in NZ.
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11-10-2002, 06:58 AM | #22 |
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Also, if one’s government already took a position against an act of injustice abroad many people feel less compelled to go on protest marches and the like, since they review themselves in the official position.
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This was a surprising demonstation in Iran.
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I remember several years ago that Europe managed to get a huge demonstation going against the US executing a person who committed murder. Surely someone who is executed for speaking out against his government is more of an outrage than executing someone who actually went around killing people.
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Quite frankly I haven’t seen that one, it probably wasn’t given much relevance here (was it widely broadcasted there?). As for the demonstration you speak of, what do you mean by huge? Can’t recall any significant demonstration for that reason, exclusively. But it is true that many Europeans are somewhat shocked by the death penalty in the US. It is one thing when death is being dealt by the state in some dark corner of the world, but for better and for worst, people simply expect more of the US here. Simply put, what happens in the West is seen as much more relevant that what happens elsewhere. Just? No, but it is true that is how thing are seen by the media and, generally, the population.
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What most Europeans don't realise is that the death penalty is a state issue - although the federal government does have the death penalty too - I think the last time the federal government executed someone was in 2001 and before that it was 1963. Executions since 1927. I had read somewhere that France had the death penalty until 1981. I feel that the death penalty is a state issue - since I support state rights. Each state has it's own laws - although the Supreme Court recently ruled that the death penalty violates the 8th Amendment (Cruel and Unusual Punishment) for those 15 and younger.
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Demonstrations in Nigeri against Miss World...
Okay this is very sick.... What is ironic and sad is that this is being done in the name of God or Allah.
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