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Okay, okay, apart from Dinosaurs!
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Edit to above: should be mass extinctions.
As the human population grows and our demand for natural resources increases, more and more habitats are devastated. Today, we may be losing 30,000 species a year -- a rate much faster than at any time since the last great extinction 65 million years ago that wiped out most of the dinosaurs. Given that an unknown "catatrophe" (no, not smoking! ) was responsible for that lot of extinctions, I hardly think that it's comparable to the mass extinctions leading up to the current era. Better?
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I don't really trust the numbers - we have no idea. Where did you get that number from? I'm not saying that we don't cause extinctions.
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ok, ok, folks........there was a subject to the thread up there^^^^
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It is an avg. estimate that I pulled off a number of sites. A conservative estimate, I might add. I don't trust numbers either, BUT these figures are at least semi-observable. *shrug*
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What happens when a previous species evolves into a more refined species and the other one dies out? There have been many species that humans have declared extinct and have rediscovered. There was a resent episode in Washington where members of the EPA - made up of environmental fanatics - put hair of a endangered animal on trees to prevent humans from occupying the area. When the samples went to the lab for testing - it was determined that the animal was in a local zoo. Afterward they claimed they just wanted to test the lab and make sure they were reliable. osszie - Yeah - I know this doesn't deal with the topic.
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Here is what ABCNews had on about the episode in Washington.
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I just did a google search. I, by no means, say that these figures are reliable. They are just estimates. Either way, whether the figures are reliable or not, they DO tell a story about several species being lost irretrievably every year. And profiteering is largely responsible for most of them.
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The question is, how can we make this planet more sustainable without "destroying peoples livelihoods"? I despair, I really do. It seems like there is nothing we can do to get around it. Even those who try and avoid certain products, can't guarantee that they're leading a completely guilt free life. I don't eat meat. I don't buy cosmetics that are tested on animals, but how do I know exactly what I'm impacting upon in my puny little life? I'm just as responsible as the next person for my methane and carbon emissions. I might not drive a car, but some of the aerosols I use are damaging to the environment, and therefore damaging to some habitats. Oh god, I think I just depressed myself at the futility of it all, again....
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These are all having an indirect impact upon habitation, and consequently, are impacting upon species within their niches. Oh well. There's always speciation.... And yes, I agree with YOUR statement: we have to find a balance. It is madness if we try to cater to any one direction more than the other. However, given the choice between a species dying out, and being lost forever, and someone losing profit, well, I'd go with the species that is dying out. BUT, I think that in cases like this, there should be some kind of state funding that could be used to help out the persons effected, judged on a case by case scenario. Obviously, a corporation could afford to sink costs a little better than say a farmer, who loses his land.
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