12-17-2002, 01:33 AM | #21 |
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Artanis is correct; HoME 3 = Leithian.
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Digging up this again.
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I'm sure I read a note on the word 'Leithien' somewhere in HoME or Letters recently, but now I can't find it. Darn.
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Yeah the Lay is a great work, but it's to short. It ends right with Carcaroth and Beren, which isn't exactly a logical stopping point.
That's very interesting about words meaning England.
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i just got the Lay of Leithian. I didn't want to buy HOME 3 because in Spain it's difficult to find the original (English) versions, and i thought that for verses a translation would always be poor (judging by the results of the translations of LOTR verses).
i've put it all in a Word file to read it better. i'll read the notes later. i'm begining it and so far it's wonderful.
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Leithien = England
Found it! HoME 4 - 'Sketch of the Mythology' has several indications of the word Leithien (Luthien) meaning England, or Britain.
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Does anyone know why Tolkien abandoned the Lay? I don't recall reading anything about it in Letters or HoME ...
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04-10-2003, 05:16 PM | #29 |
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I'm pretty sure that Chris mentioned it in one of his editorial comments; something like he ran out of time and interest?
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Time I can believe, but interest?
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Maybe there was another lay he wanted to work on. Judging by 'Letters' the poor man never had time for finishing anything.
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Hey Fat middle, have you finished the lay yet? Aren't you terribly upset by the abrupt ending?
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Not yet. I've been short of time to read this week and i do not want to read it fast: i know the story, so what i want is to enjoy the verses.
I'm on chapter 6th, but i've enjoyed a lot what i've read so far.
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True, it shouldn't be rushed. Enjoy.
I saw your statement about how difficult it was to find the English version. Are the lays translated into Spanish?
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Yes, all HOME is translated into Spanish. I've read some of them, but for the Lays i wanted the original version, so i searched the net till i found them. I know this may be illegal, but i don't think they'd pretend me to buy the original version if they don't sell it in my country.
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I wouldn't worry if I were you. In case you do. Probably not.
The Spanish version must have been a good challenge for the translator. I'm rather happy they doesn't come in Norwegian. In which language did you read the other books?
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