Historical Trivia Questions - Page 2

The last sane person · 09-15-2005, 12:34 AM

....Great in war, skimpy in names.....Fun thread! Lotesse, you post a question since you got it.

Lotesse · 09-15-2005, 12:40 AM

Nice! It just goes to show, the first thing that pops into one's head is often the right answer. Used to happen to me all the time during tests in school; you gotta learn to trust your inner voice I guess, or whatever. Anyway.

This is easy enough:

What's the name of the first person to die in the American Revolutionary War?

The last sane person · 09-15-2005, 12:42 AM

crispus attucks?

Lotesse · 09-15-2005, 12:48 AM

DAMN you're fast. Ya-Vol, that's the guy. It's all yours, Shah!

Lief Erikson · 09-15-2005, 12:36 PM

Spock: I thought someone would guess that

. You're WRONG

. Poor you

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eärniel

Hm, judging from memory the oldest Chinese writing was at least a few millennia old. Paper money is of course a different matter so I consulted google, out of curiosity.

Takin the hint about the "loosely termed paper" I came up with this:

"China was the first country to use paper money. Ancient paper money can be traced back to the Pai-Lu P'i-pi (white deer-skin money) of Han Dynasty (140 BC) and the Fei-Chien (flying money) of Tang Dynasty (618 AD)."

Sorry for taking this long! I didn't notice that anyone had responded, stupid me. Thanks for doing me the honor of researching to find an answer

.

You may well be completely correct that 140 BC is when paper money was first developed in China. The date I had goes a little further back, but pretty close.

Here's what I was thinking of:

Around 300 BC, "paper" money was widely used in the Mediterranean Carthaginian Trading Empire. Symbols of value were stamped onto strips of leather in that empire and widely distributed. This was, I believe, the first major use of paper money. While it wasn't paper that was being used, the stamped value and overall idea behind the process was precisely the same as is used in modern cash.

This is an extremely obscure piece of trivia, and I like your answer a good deal. I've just been doing so much research about Carthage that I accidentally picked this bit of information up. The book I was reading said it was "the first paper money". I wonder if anyone even before the Carthaginians used the idea, however. Our historical data is limited by what we have currently discovered.

***Jonathan*** · 09-15-2005, 12:46 PM

Carthagian leather money - well you learn something new everyday. Good question Lief

***Earniel*** · 09-15-2005, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lief Erikson

Here's what I was thinking of:

Around 300 BC, "paper" money was widely used in the Mediterranean Carthaginian Trading Empire. Symbols of value were stamped onto strips of leather in that empire and widely distributed. This was, I believe, the first major use of paper money. While it wasn't paper that was being used, the stamped value and overall idea behind the process was precisely the same as is used in modern cash.

Carthago!

*hits desk with head*

D'oh! I misread your question!

I thought it was a given that the first 'paper' money was created in China and that the World book just gave a wrong estimation of when. So I didn't think of searching outside China.

Typical...

Oh, this is hilarious.

Anyway, thanks for answering so soon. It was a very intriging question.

Lotesse · 09-15-2005, 06:23 PM

Lief, are you gonna give us a new question now? I, for one, am a history & trivia nut; I eagerly await the next brain-twister...

Lief Erikson · 09-15-2005, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan

Carthagian leather money - well you learn something new everyday. Good question Lief

Thanks

. It would be tough to find another that has an incorrect answer available from most history books and websites. That's why I particularly like this first question; it proves most history books wrong

. You'd have to be a highly unusual person to either know the answer to it, or to be able to find the answer to it. That's also why I thought it was an interesting one to start the thread with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotesse

Lief, are you gonna give us a new question now? I, for one, am a history & trivia nut; I eagerly await the next brain-twister...

I'm very fond of history too. I'm not very good at random trivia; it must be a subject that I'm well acquainted with. I'm selective too, preferring to study some time periods and locations over others. I love history, though.

Here's another question. Like the last one, you almost certainly would have to research to find the answer, though research might yield correct answers to this one, rather than misleading information like in my leather money question. Hopefully it doesn't yield multiple answers.

Guesses are allowed for this one. Even if people don't know anything about the culture or history, they're allowed to guess. This also is very obscure, after all. Just one guess is permitted for each person.

Question: When Portuguese Captain Jorge Alvares visited the port of Kagoshima Japan in 1547, what aspect of the natives' behavior utterly shocked him?

Hint: If someone did in Portugal what was done in Japan, he or she would be locked up in prison, or more likely killed. It was commonplace, regular behavior in Japan, however.

Lotesse · 09-15-2005, 07:51 PM

never mind,

I see he went to both china AND japan... I can't guess this one; I'll look & think some more.

rohirrim TR · 09-15-2005, 07:55 PM

sodomy?

Lief Erikson · 09-15-2005, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotesse

never mind,

I see he went to both china AND japan... I can't guess this one; I'll look & think some more.

I actually don't know much about ancient China, though I'm certain it is a fascinating history. I do know a good deal about Carthage though, and it's from studying that civilization that I learned about "the first paper money".

I went and read a book on Japanese ancient history, because I knew nothing about the country's past. Japan is the only country I've ever done that for, so the fact that I can ask this question is just a happy fluke

.

What historical places and time periods fascinate you most, Lotesse?

Lotesse · 09-15-2005, 08:28 PM

Everything! All of it. I'm fairly non-committal about this, man, I just love all history, all of it. That narrows it down a little, huh!

rohirrim TR · 09-16-2005, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lief Erikson

Question: When Portuguese Captain Jorge Alvares visited the port of Kagoshima Japan in 1547, what aspect of the natives' behavior utterly shocked him?

Hint: If someone did in Portugal what was done in Japan, he or she would be locked up in prison, or more likely killed. It was commonplace, regular behavior in Japan, however.

sodomy?

Lief Erikson · 09-16-2005, 10:42 AM

I'm just waiting before replying to see whether or not anyone else guesses.

Count Comfect · 09-18-2005, 03:47 PM

Seemed like sodomy in the stuff I found. Specifically between older men and younger boys.

Lief Erikson · 09-19-2005, 01:56 AM

What I was thinking of was a quotation from the captain, in his writings. He expressed shock that the men and women of Japan bathed publicly in the nude. They did so on the streets, completely calmly. It shocked him.

Mine was a very vague question this time, however. I'll try to do better next time.

Mercutio · 09-19-2005, 04:01 PM

I have one:

What war is this flag from?

brownjenkins · 09-19-2005, 04:28 PM

good one!

without googlin', i'm thinking king philip's war against the indians... but there were a couple of other one's against france too early on, i think

Lotesse · 09-19-2005, 04:37 PM

The American Revolutionary war, no?

09-15-2005, 12:34 AM	#21
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	....Great in war, skimpy in names.....Fun thread! Lotesse, you post a question since you got it. __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

09-15-2005, 12:40 AM	#22
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Nice! It just goes to show, the first thing that pops into one's head is often the right answer. Used to happen to me all the time during tests in school; you gotta learn to trust your inner voice I guess, or whatever. Anyway. This is easy enough: What's the name of the first person to die in the American Revolutionary War? __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-15-2005, 12:42 AM	#23
The last sane person The Black Númenórean Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,773	crispus attucks? __________________ Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.

09-15-2005, 12:48 AM	#24
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	DAMN you're fast. Ya-Vol, that's the guy. It's all yours, Shah! __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-15-2005, 12:46 PM	#26
*Jonathan* Entmoot Attorney-General, Equilibrating the Scales of Justice, Administrator ♎ Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 3,891	Carthagian leather money - well you learn something new everyday. Good question Lief __________________ An unwritten post is a delightful universe of infinite possibilities. Set down one word, however, and it immediately becomes earthbound. Set down one sentence and it’s halfway to being just like every other bloody entry that’s ever been written. ☻

09-15-2005, 06:23 PM	#28
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Lief, are you gonna give us a new question now? I, for one, am a history & trivia nut; I eagerly await the next brain-twister... __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-15-2005, 07:51 PM	#30
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	never mind, I see he went to both china AND japan... I can't guess this one; I'll look & think some more. __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Last edited by Lotesse : 09-15-2005 at 07:53 PM.

09-15-2005, 08:28 PM	#33
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	Everything! All of it. I'm fairly non-committal about this, man, I just love all history, all of it. That narrows it down a little, huh! __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

09-16-2005, 10:42 AM	#35
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	I'm just waiting before replying to see whether or not anyone else guesses. __________________ If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do."

09-18-2005, 03:47 PM	#36
Count Comfect Word Santa Claus Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,922	Seemed like sodomy in the stuff I found. Specifically between older men and younger boys. __________________ Sufficient to have stood, yet free to fall.

09-19-2005, 01:56 AM	#37
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	What I was thinking of was a quotation from the captain, in his writings. He expressed shock that the men and women of Japan bathed publicly in the nude. They did so on the streets, completely calmly. It shocked him. Mine was a very vague question this time, however. I'll try to do better next time. __________________ If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do." Last edited by Lief Erikson : 09-19-2005 at 02:20 AM.

09-19-2005, 04:01 PM	#38
Mercutio Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Narnia Posts: 1,656	I have one: What war is this flag from? __________________ Mike nodded. A sombre nod. The nod Napoleon might have given if somebody had met him in 1812 and said, "So, you're back from Moscow, eh?". Interested in C.S. Lewis? Visit the forum dedicated to one of Tolkien's greatest contemporaries.

09-19-2005, 04:28 PM	#39
brownjenkins Advocatus Diaboli Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Reality Posts: 3,767	good one! without googlin', i'm thinking king philip's war against the indians... but there were a couple of other one's against france too early on, i think __________________ Your reality, sir, is lies and balderdash and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.

09-19-2005, 04:37 PM	#40
Lotesse of the House of Fëanor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,150	The American Revolutionary war, no? __________________ Few people have the imagination for reality. ~Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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