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Yup, anduin, jerseydevil did sterling work in he definition of easter eggs, but I am confident you would have given just as good a definition when you got to it.
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there are also easter eggs in a lot of programs and games....but i won't get into that seeing as how i feel sick....
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01-08-2002, 12:32 AM | #25 |
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I hate those pillowcases too. The seam on them is crappy also. BTW, they are not stripey, but they do have some terrible design on them. There are some great fabrics out there that would have been so much more appropriate. Something with a silver thread running through it. Or woven completely out of silver thread.
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I have to say that after seeing the movie 4 times and A Passage to Middle Earth twice I still haven't seen the car that's supposed to be in the Sam & Frodo walking scene . . . And I have a Frodo waking up in Rivendell desktop . . . the pillows look normal and white to me, with little wavy lines that you can barely see. Looks fine and Rivendell-ish to me . . . or maybe I am just crazy after all . . .
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I saw the film for the fifth time today, and went on an error hunt, and this is what I found:
1. Yes, there IS a car, with its headlights on, in the scene with Sam standing in front of the scarecrow. Upper right hand portion of the horizon, moving right-to-left. 2. Merry hands Pippin an apple, Pippin is holding it in his left hand, then Aragorn's thrown apple hits Pippin on the head and falls to the ground. Two apples. 3. Sorry, the pillows in Lothlorien aren't some "Martha Stewart Collection" pillowcases. Loom-woven, tight weave, but a hand-sewn stitch. Originals. 4. The scene where Boromir confronts Frodo at Amon Hen: The bundle of wood Boromir is holding in his arms which he has gathered: The shape of the wood branch topmost in the bundle changes as the scene progresses. Different sticks, obviously different takes. [No, I AIN'T gonna say, "the wood in his hands changes shape". There are children on this group!] Good observations, folks. Thanks for pointing them out!
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HOBBIT you really are sick - you'd better just go back and lay down with Arwen - she'll make it all better.
I covered programs and games by just saying software - which is the general term for anything that runs on the computer vs hardware that makes up the physical part of the computer. For an admin of a web site - I thought you'd know that.
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01-08-2002, 08:53 AM | #29 |
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I am not talking of Frodo's pillow in Lothlorien. But Sam's pillow....maybe he isn't in Lothlorien, but in Rivendell. Hmmm, now I must go see it again sooner than planned...which was this weekend.
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01-08-2002, 12:09 PM | #30 |
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nope, anduin, it's Sam's pillow in Lothlorien that folks have been on about. He had no pillow in Rivendell; that was Frodo's pillow, a white linen with embossing in Elven designs. The pillows in the Prancing Pony are whiteas well, but a looser woven linen, sans decoration.
No, the pillow Sam is sleeping upon in Lothlorien is the "striped pillow", and again, it is a loom-woven, tight-weave material, and the seam is obviously a hand-stitch. [By the Valar, if someone told me a year ago I'd be discussing the weave of a pillowcase, I'd have said they were loons...]
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I believe what HOBBIT means is that in a lot of software and games there are Lord of the rings Easter Eggs and refrences, they occourr a lot in Microsoft Programs such as Visual Basic.
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01-08-2002, 11:56 PM | #32 |
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Ugh! Your right, about the locations I mean, but I remember Sam's pillow being mostly white with a goldish and greenish wavy design and loose stitching in the seam (which I bet is just serged...which will give the effect of hand stitching from the outside.). I am seeing it again this weekend so I will look for this striped pillow you all are talking about. When you say striped are you meaning like "ticking"?
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01-09-2002, 04:57 AM | #33 |
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Hmmm...pillow talk....
I brought up the part where the car was moving behind the scarecrow with my friends and one of them said: "Speaking of scarecrows, why is it covered with crows?" |
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no, anduin, the pillow is "saem facing" to the camera, so you cannot see the pillow underneath. No "ticking" shown.
And, Arathorn, of you've ever had a garden or farm and used a "scarecrow", you find that crows aren't really all that scared of 'em....
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Sorry. "seam facing".
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That's what I am talking about. The pillow CASE. I hate that damn thing. The seam is yucky and the fabric ugly.
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Thanks bropous.
BTW, right after the dragon fireworks and Gandalf tweaks Pippin's and Merry's ears there is a close-up of the two hobbits with their faces still black. Question: Just curious and can't afford to watch the movie again for at least until the weekend. Are Gandalf's hands still holding their ears? |
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After they set off the dragon firework, the two miscreant hobbits are shown, faces blackened, hair and clothes smouldering, and one says, "That was great!" and the other says, "Let's get another one!".
THEN Gandalf grabs their ears. Oh well, anduin, I guess we'll disagree on the quality of fabric selection and "seamstressing" on the subject of the pillowcase.
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Well, there I was getting into the emotion of Borormir's death scene and my brother nudges me and points out that you can see Boromir's right hand on Aragorn's left shoulder when the camera is behind Aragorn. Then when the camera shifts to face Aragorn, the hand is absent from the shoulder. A little later the facing-Aragorn shot had Boromir raise his right hand and place it on Aragorn's left shoulder.
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