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This thread has great potential for spamming and flaming. I just want to caution everyone that if things get out of control here, I'll have to close it.
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BTW - when I went to the entmoot gathering with BMilder, Tater, Hobbit and Anduin when FotR first came out - Ben and Tristan's mother asked if everyone liked the movie. I said I did not and my opinion has not changed. If anything I dislike them even more - because now the fight scene in Mines of Moria scene seems to take even longer, the stairs take forever, etc.
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Also - for your informationI have read Lord of the Rings TWELVE times (twice a year). So - your statement that I don't know Tolkien is completely ridiculous. As SGH has said - we have talked about Tolkien on the side and even though I do not post much in the Tolkien forums I do KNOW Tolkien. She can confirm that do know Tolkien, I just have never felt it necessary to prove my knowledge to anyone. When you read Lord of the Rings - twelve times - let me know. My complaint as I said - it's that it isn't exactly like the books. My complaint is that it's a mindless action movie. There is FAR more emphasis on Arwen and Aragorn's love and the action scenes (most of which didn't even exist in the book). How much screen time did the MAIN character and object get in TT? maybe a half hour at most? There have been many GREAT movies which have shown struggle and turmoil without resorting to over the top action. More time could have been taken to show Frodo's struggle moving through Mordor. Instead Jackson decided to waste time by having Frodo dragged to Osgiliath and practically GIVE the Ring to the Nazgul. There is no sense of suspense and forboding - it's all just a hack and slash fest. When watching Frodo move through Mordor I do not have any sense of doom or fear or anything. A GOOD director would have been able to make the viewer feel this suspense. If you can't see the difference of what us so called purists complain about and how you claim we feel - you are the one that is blind. The Lord fo the Rings could have been such a much more intelligent movie. Since this is my thread - we will now go back to how we will get the creaters of the crap Lord of the Rings movies back for their hack job. I was kind enough to split this from your prediction thread - so we didn't get your thread off topic. Now you give us the same curtesy. We have discussed all the problems we find with the books in various other threads. Go there if you want to continue talking about that. This is a way for us to have fun making Jackson realize that not EVERYONE was blinded and sucked in by his propaganda.
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I'm willing to wait for RoTK to complete my view of movie-Faramir. But I'll say this: RoTK-Faramir will have a LOT to make up to for TTT-Faramir. And I hope that I'm wrong, but I fear he ain't gonna do it. EDIT: didn't see your last post, JD. Apologies for still dragging this off topic.
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Damn! You left me out of all the fun? [EDITED]? Can't I hurt Jackson, a lot, too?
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Ruinel - you can be a part of the Taming of Jackson - just didn't want to speak for you. Oh - BB - this will be my last comment to you regarding this. As I said - go to the many other threads where the movie versus book is discussed.
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Ah! :D Now I have time. *cracks knuckles*
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First of all, I want to be included in the 'Taming of Jackson'... though I want a more violent part in the Taming. Second, BB... in response to this... Quote:
PJ: *releases an evil laugh* "You shall rise up and slaughter these insolent infidels that refuse to worship your Dark Lord." *BB and the other Orcs bring forth a frightened goat and tie it to an altar ... they begin to dance wildly, screaming and chanting... the goat bleets nervously as BB brings the ceremonial knife forward.* *Suddenly, a bright and blinding light strikes the worshippers from over the horizon. A lone she-Elf dressed in silver armor, riding an ebony stallion, appears in the wash of light. She draws her gleaming sword, her red flame hair whipping wildly in the wind, her bright green eyes fixed on Jackson.* Ruinel: "FOR TOLKIEN! FOR TRUTH! FOR THE FANS! FOR ALL THAT IS RIGHT IN THIS WORLD!" *the steed leaps to a gallop* PJ: *gasp!* BB! Help me! Save me! *fear grips PJ as he trips trying to escape* BB: "Master! What do I do? Master! Don't leave me, I'm frightened!" *BB looks around for a means to escape, but the hoards of True Tolkien Fans have surrounded PJ and his band of filthy Orcs* PJ: *shoves BB in front of him* DEFEND YOUR MASTER, SLAVE!!! Ruinel: "AAAAIIIAAAAHHH" *sweeps her sword with all her might and cleaves BB's head from his body* BB: *gasp* *gurgle* *his body falls limp as his severed head rolls off into a dirty storm drain* PJ: "IEEEE!!!" *holds hands to his head, as he trips backwards over the fainted Fran Walsh* Ruinel: *halts the horse and dismounts, and walks over to the quivering and pleading PJ, her sword drips with BB's black blood* "Peter Jackson, you are the bane of existence. *her bright green eyes fixed sternly on PJ* You have been judged by the Righteous and True Fans of JRR Tolkien and found guilty on all charges brought against you. The sentence is death! Do you have any last words before I carry out your sentence?" PJ: *kneeling at Ruinel's feet, hands folded, pleading* "Oh, god! Please, no!" *crying* "How is this possible? I have money... I could give you some... would that make things better? IT WAS ALL FRAN'S IDEA!!! IT WAS HER!!! ALL HER!!! KILL HER!!! NOT ME!!! *sobbing* Please, please... spare me... please." Ruinel: "They are your judges, not I" *pointing to the crowd of True Tolkien Fans* "If a pardon is given it can only come from them." PJ: *sniff* "Then let me plead my case to them... please... I beg of you." Ruinel: *looks to JerseyDevil, Elvengirl, Sheeana, Elf Girl, Cirdan, Wayfarer, Cassiopeia, Hectorberlioz, and the mass of True Tolkien Fans that have been witnessing the events* "What say you noble Fans? What is your will?" *later, in the storm drain, sewer rats feed on the head of BB* Edit: NOTE: If this gets edited (which I usually do ) then pm me and I'll send you a copy. Last edited by Ruinel : 10-21-2003 at 07:45 PM. |
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Great Ruinel. I think as the leader of the horde of Tolkien fans - since I came up with this idea - you could have given me a larger role. I want to dine under the hanging body of Jackson - sort of like Vlad the Impaler.
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And risk his blood falling on your food?!
Personally, I wouldn't mind being charge of getting Jackson to do the LotR copying. And could we make a small change and have him copy them in Tengwar? It would be a blessing, though, once he gets used to it. I can write in Tengwar faster than in English... Let's make him translate it into Sindarin and then do the copying in Tengwar!
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And then after all that, I move that we make him individually photocopy copies for all participating in the 'taming' - as in ONE page at a time. Heh heh heh... |
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*Ruinel grabs PJ by the collar and tosses him to the crowd, PJ stumbles forward and lands at JerseyDevil's feet.* ok... he's all yours. Last edited by Ruinel : 10-21-2003 at 11:30 PM. |
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You understand, I'd kill him myself. But this sword is very sharp and the death would be swift and painless. We want him to SUFFER
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10-22-2003, 08:35 AM | #38 |
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Talk about hypocrisy!!! Sheeeeeeeesh.
When it comes to the release of the TTT Extended Version and the opening of ROTK at the theatres, all you alleged Jackson Haters know in your hearts that you'll be right there watching. If these films are so appalling and Jackson's treatment of the material so disgusting to you as you claim, then Dr. Blackie suggests you lower your blood pressure by vowing to stay away from the new film and the TTT Extended DVD. Let's see how many of you can do it. I can just hear jerseydevil now: "oh, I hate Jackson's films...uh, well, uh, but I'm just gonna go to ROTK to see how badly he butchered up the story this time." riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. |
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You make a good pt. Perhaps people should stay away from LOTR:ROTK, and not purchase anything related to PJ&co. movies if they do not like the movies and consider them to be too "hollywoodized" (sp?). But , I think you are also incorrect to assume that just because you think PJ&co did a great job that PJ&co are above criticism. If people go to see a movie they can (and often do ) critically look at the movie and see where things could have been improved, where things went wrong or where things went well. I, in general, enjoyed the films (PJ&Co did some things well IMHO), but the films had things that I did not like. I also think that the films could have been much better. »The films could have stayed within the 3 hour time limit and still stayed closer to the book (this does not mean a literal page by page book to screen adaptation) without having to add extra material not part of the book and does little to add to the story of LOTR. »It would have been nice to keep the characterizations of the characters intact. »Although not critical for non-book readers, it would have been nice to keep in mind about the geographic location of places in LOTR when making references to them. ========================================= Oh Jerseydevil, You can include me in the taming of PJ. I reccommend, in addition to some of the other suggestions, designing an AI program modeled after JRRT and tie this to a hologram. Put PJ&Company into a room and force them to listen to AI-JRRT critique their version of LOTR.
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