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Well I know for one thing LOTR says that Shelob was an evil thing in the SHAPE of a spider, so does'nt that mean that her mother might have been an evil maiar in the shape of a spider, and maybe the spiders in Mirkwood were half spiders, you know alot of male arachnids are smaller then their mates. You never know.
I would think that the coolest and the most mystic beings would have to be the Ainur, the spirits who sang to Illúvatar in the begg. Or the Ents.
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I cannot imagine what Ungoliant would be, if not a Maia in the shape of a vast spider. She nonetheless bred with what were apparently 'normal' monstrous spiders, those of the Valley of Dreadful Death. Shelob was of that terrible offspring, and she apparently bred with 'normal' monstrous spiders in the Shadowy Mountains, whose offspring removed to Mirkwood. Lovely names.
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Yes, exactly like that. The Spiders of Mirkwood would have thin Maian blood in their veins, from one common ancestor. But I think 'Maian' is actually too noble a word for the filthy things. 'Raucon' is better. 'Maiar' means 'the Beautiful'. A rauco was a 'powerful, hostile and terrible creature', translated 'demon' by Tolkien in Valarauco, 'demon of might', the form in Quenya of 'Balrog'.
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All I meant was that 'Maia' is too pure a word to be used for a demon. The Balrogs were indeed Maiar, or fallen Maiar. The only 'good' sub-group of the Maiar I think anyone knows about are the Istari. Essays imply that the five who came to Middle-earth in the Second and Third Ages were not the only ones that existed.
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Weirdest creature
Hands down it goes to the "wereworms" of the Last Desert in the Far East, as mentioned in The Hobbit.
Can you even imagine what the heck a "wereworm" looks like? Devin |
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One might imagine a wereworm to be eight inchis long, named so by biologists because of it's unique fore-teeth and exceptional fur-like hair. So ... I'd rule the vague wereworms out on the basis of .. vagueness. Edited: lol! I'm an idiot. Not having seen this topic in a while, I read the title as 'strongest of all Tolkien's creatures'. My description of wereworms to show they might not be too strong made them out to be very strange, didn't it?
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Wereworms
Well...the way Bilbo described them, wereworms were something fierce to be feared, as he held them up as an example of something he would face to prove his bravery.
I assume ICE's MERP dealt with wereworms in some fashion. Since I first read The Hobbit, circa 1972, I always pictured them as miniature versions of Dune sandworms with two human arms sticking out of them and a human head...an awfully lot like Leto III the God Emperor of Dune turned out to be. Devin |
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Ungoliant was a physical manifestation of the Void, the opposite of Illuvatar. Probably just about the worst thing that ever existed. Morgoth + a bunch of Blargos were barely able to subdue her. I sort of think of Ungoliant and Shelob = Morgoth and Sauron in terms of their relationships with each other.
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I don't know about you guys, but most everyone in middle earth say that the hobbits are the strangest as tales of their origins are hard to come by.
i disagree with my friend mr afro-elf. Entmooters are only strange here in the real world. Perhaps if we trade places with the hobbits, everyone will be happy. Of course, they'll still find our names confusing...
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Dunno why, but idea of half human-half worm is too much for me to imagine (exept perhaps in sick dreams of H.P. Lovecraft, but he would had called them with different name). I don't know what would be most strange creature of Tolkien...Perhaps the Watcher in the Water, the Kraken, was oddest. Unfortunately it isn't much known... Only things we know of it was, that it was acient and powerful... |
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For me, it would have to be the Ents. They are very strange indeed, but great at the same time!! Treebeard is actually one of my favourite characters, but still, their physical form is very unique
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It would have to be Gollum. Yessss preciousssss....him. The mutant hobbit. He talks in a weird manner, has split personalities and an addiction to fisssh and the One Ring. And he plays an important part in LotR, and is not just a flat, one-dimensional monster that the fellowship runs into that takes up at the most, a few pages.( think orcs) He bags the award for the strangest creature.
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I'm not sure what deleting posts has to do with this thread, but normal Members can't delete posts, only Moderators and Administrators can delete posts and threads.
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I would have to say humans. Who would have thought of that?
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Beorn is kinda strange. I always wondered where he came from. Gollum is strange too, in a weird way.
But I think the award for Strangest Creature should go to Tom Bombadil. What a bizarre character! He doesn't quite fit in anywhere.
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