02-26-2004, 08:58 AM | #21 |
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Is it just me or is Hektor's death really tragic? And I have no longer any remorse for Achilleus...
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02-26-2004, 11:05 AM | #22 |
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Yeah, Hektor's death is pretty tragic. Homer went through great lenght (at least in my translation) to praise Hektor's courage, prowess with weapons and leader skills. The poor guy just happened to be on the wrong side of the war.
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02-26-2004, 11:15 AM | #23 |
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Felt especially sorry for his father...haven't finished with the book yet, but so far at least three of his sons have died that I can remember.
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My favorite character always used to be Odysseus, but re-reading it Hector has taken that place.
The scene where his son is frightened by his helmet; and there's Hector knowing that it's going to turn out badly; his son will be killed and his wife sold into slavery....but he's got to carry on anyway.
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My favorite character has thus far (Book/Song 22 or 23 currently) been Aias/Ajax...
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This thread deserves a bump. In fact, I was planning to bump it when my "Faramir and Hector" thread was going on, but I forgot.
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I had guessed it wasn't part of Homer's tale of the war but I didn't know it was added only so much later. I always viewed it as part of the body of Greek myths.
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havent read the iliad or the odyssey but i really want to
saw troy and thought it was awesome tho
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I finished the Iliad recently and liked it very much - lovely strong language and moving descriptions. I really liked Hektor, the tamer of horses *sob*
I got a little tired of all the descriptions of various gory deaths, tho.
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about 1/4 way thru the Odyssey and enjoying it so far ... I love the repetitive descriptive adjectives - very melodic, and you can see how it really works with it being an oral work.
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Isn't Homer, like, Manny Ramirez's best friend?
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I read the Iliad and the Oddysey several years ago, just for fun. My favorite character was Odysseus, by far, and his family (Penelope and Telemachus). Athena's awesome too.
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hektor
hands down. He is one of the few people who acts out of love for others rather than himself.
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I have been wanting to read the Oddysey and Iliad for a long time...took them out of the library, but just never got arround to it. I will though...I promise...
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just finished reading Iliad, and the Odyssey. I don't know if it was translation or what but Iliad was way better than the Odyssey.
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ah, Hector .... *sigh*
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01-20-2006, 05:32 PM | #39 |
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I feel even worse for Hector's father. Had fifty sons and lost em ALL! I first read the Illiad when I was 10. I fell in love with that and read the Odessy right after. But really, I feel much more empathy for the Trojan side. The Greeks were a bunch of pompus asses really. Agamemnon, Achillies the lot of them. Perhaps old Nestor and cunning Odyseius (cant spell) were the only ones that kept their cool.
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the trojan war is a lot like the civil war to me, really hard to villifie one side or the other they were equally glorious and equally brutal, the only real villain would be Paris I suppose Although Helen would get second prize in that contest as well. Poor Hector victim of circumstances.
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