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I own both Animal Farm and 1984, but have yet to read the latter. I have, on the other hand, read Animal Farm twice.
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Gwai, I respectufully decline to acknowlege that. Building a space elevator would end world hunger. Once colonization of Mars and the hospitable Jovian moons is complete, plus the benefits from the space elevator (such as the Berkowitz-Helliwell People Mover System a friend and I are developing, as well as an idea I've had regarding gargantuan aerial tramways spanning the Strait of Gibraltir and connecting Russia to Alaska). You know, I'm also a big fan of genetic engineering. Eight-legged cows pack a lot of steak! And much can be learned from zero-G genetic experiments (or so I've heard), which would become very cheap with the construction of a space elevator. On top of that, development of terraforming efforts in the more hostile environments could begin to apply to the less hostile environments of Earth, creating rich farmland more efficiently than it's currently being developed. Not to mention oceanic and maybe even atmospheric colonization: whole floating cities and farms made largely out of carbon nanotubes (which are the primary construction components of the space elevator, and the development therin is crucial for the development of such cities) could be built.
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We should probably make a new thread for this subject...
I have to make it known: I'm against really "altering" the planet or animals for any cause... One of these days our technology is going to catch us up, and it'll be the Fall of Rome all over again...
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I agree. Maybe roll them all into part of the space elevator discussion. I'd hate to have a thread for every one of these ideas.
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I AM NOT red . Definitely not....
It's not that I'm anti-discovery/better means, it's that I think sometimes we leap into something just because it is "new" and think that it is automatically better.
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[Borg Voice]Thinking is irrelevant. The space elevator, etcetera, is better.[/Borg Voice]
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This thread is wandering further from the topic than Moses did from the Promised land.
This is in the General Literature Thread and is about a BOOK you can post on other topics in the appropriate topic threads.
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Come to think of it, Smith cracks and surrenders in 1984. Sam Lowry cracks and escapes – into a mirage, a dream – under the same conditions in Brazil. It that pertinent? Last edited by Alcuin : 10-19-2006 at 04:56 PM. |
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Everytime I see the title of this thread, I always get the Dead Kennedys song stuck in my head. [editted bad smiley-code]
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I liked 1984. But then I remember being alive then...
Seriously, it's a good book. Spooked me but good with the psychological bits about breaking Winston.
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One thing I liked better about Brazil was the amount of contrast they gave you between the world the character is in and the one he would like to be in. In 1984 you don't get the impression that Winston knows how much better life could really be, only that he knows something is wrong. He doesn't seem as sure of what's missing in his life. While Sam Lowry of Brazil has dreams about being a hero with morals, in a world seemingly without heroes and morals, and heroicly rescuing the girl he loves, in a world seemingly without love. He dreams about being able to fly and having total freedom.
Also, Brazil is more about how sociaty in general went crazy, and not just it's goverment. It's about how shallow the world is becoming and how hard it is for people with values to live in a sociaty that is increasingly becoming amoral without going insane. 1984 is a terrific book, though. I can see why it's such a classic. |
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