11-20-2003, 01:18 PM | #21 | |
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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11-20-2003, 01:40 PM | #22 |
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Originally posted by Dunedain
Yeah I've been wondering as well how they will do it if the Saruman scenes are cut. Is it certain that Saruman is cut? _________________________________________- Yes. Without the Saruman/Gandalf confrontation how do they get the Palantir and Merry and Pippin with Gandalf? Do they just pop up unexplained? Also, i thought the best reason for having Christopher lee as Saruman is for his doing the Voice of Saruman at Orthanc. That could have been really interesting.
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11-20-2003, 01:45 PM | #23 | |
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Ok I just read something interesting that will hopefully clear it up a bit
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11-20-2003, 01:53 PM | #24 |
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There is a pentition out trying to get the scenes put back in. It probably won't do any good, but here's a link.
http://www.christopherleeweb.com/
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11-20-2003, 01:55 PM | #25 |
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Is it certain Lee's scenes were cut? ........ Yes .......
see here: http://www.nbc10.com/entertainment/2642152/detail.html Also I found this interesting http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2729778a11,00.html |
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I doubt anything will result from signing the petition on the web, but you never know for certain. I have heard that someone went to the trouble of cutting/pasting PJ's movies to make it closer to the book. I have know Idea how that went. (I do not have high hopes for that doing well. {not even thinking about the copyright issues})
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I think it is ridiculous to be signing petitions and creating an uproar about a movie that hasn't even been SEEN yet.
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And remember that not everybody watches the EE, is Saruman's part of the story just not going to be finished for those people? I know more people that have not seen, or care to see, the EE of FotR then have seen it. There are alot of people that the theater version of the films is all they know, so should these people not see what happens to Saruman just because they don't watch the EE?
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Jerseydevil, I'm confused as to why you are so upset by the removal of the Saruman scene from the theatrical release.
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Also - as a tolkien fan - it is my RIGHT to complain about things I don't like. And I don't HATE the film series - I have given it a C as movies go. Of course an adaptation to Tolkien I give it an F. Also - if Saruman doesn't appear in this movie. What the hell happens to him? Does he just disappear into nothing? It seems like Saruman is completely cut out of this movie with no explanation as to what happens to Saruman.
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