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Yes, but FRODO LIVES!!!!! According to all you people, Frodo dies, and I'm sure he does, except for the fact that Frodo LIVES!!!!!
Good explanations, all. Much better than I could do, for sure.
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Frodo Lives!!!!
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Actually they're not, in any sense of the word, but that's a whole 'nother topic Do a search on it, if you like.
The fate of Orks is a complete mystery and the more real information you will get, the more convinced of that you will be. We'll find about Orkish fate we find out about Bombadillish identity.
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You mean to say orcs and elves are not the same? But according to Tolkien, weren't orcs once elves who were corrupted and mutilated by Melkor? "Little is known for certain of the beginnings of the Orcs, the footsoldiers of the Enemy. It is said that they were in origin corrupted Elves captured by Melkor before the beginning of the First Age. " |
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I think the typo devil was here
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Scatha, I can't be exact about which text it is in and Nolendil may be able to tell you for sure, but I think it is in the Peoples of Middle-earth, volume twelve of the HoMe series.
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By "elves", Sister Golden Hair meant "Orks". I imagine this is what Artanis meant by typos.
Orks came from Men, but as I said, that's a whole 'nother topic. You can read about it in Myths Transformed in Morgoth's Ring. SGH, you wondered about Orks being around before Men. Not true Orks. What the Elves of the Water of Awakening saw were Úmaiar who had taken on twisted shapes of horror. The same words the primitive Kwendî used for them were later applied to the the true Orks made by Sauron after the Awakening of Men. (The idea was Melkor's, but Sauron is the one who achieved it, when Melkor was in captivity). This is all been thoroughly discussed before here on Entmoot, however, several times, and I am sorry to drag it out again.
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Ñólendil is right, I referred to SGH's post, not your Scatha. Sorry! I should have explained.
Btw, welcome to the moot Scatha!
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Ahhhhh! I'm so slow. Yes the typo devil, or an attack of stupid came my way. I just now saw this. Yes, Orcs is what I meant. Thank you Nolendil and Artanis.
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There are no dumb questions...
not even this one. But, though it hurts me to say it, didn't Orcs came from Elves?
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