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10-02-2003, 03:37 PM | #21 |
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Of all the dumbass questions - will the films change our relationship with books? - well, of course it does, dimwit. I read it now, and I see frellin' Orlando Bloom as Legolas, dratitall.
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10-02-2003, 03:41 PM | #22 |
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Actually, I would like to update my earlier statement. If some sort of Hitlerian perverion of Wagner happens using the LotR movies, it will not change my relationship with the books. So I changed my mind over night.
My answer is now, No. It affects how I visualize faces, voices, and some settings, but not my relationship.
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Also. We moderators are not above questioning - in fact, if you have a problem with the way we're doing things, it's totally your prerogative to challenge our policies. BUT the appropriate place to do that is by Private Message, and not interrupting a thread where everybody else has been issuing on-topic replies. Please take this to PM.
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10-02-2003, 09:12 PM | #24 |
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Also - if you want to touch this issue of Books/Movies separation and want to comment on it publicly, please use this thread.
http://entmoot.tolkientrail.com/show...&threadid=4482 Thank you. Everyone else, sorry about the mess - this will be the last post on this thread about operating policies instead of the actual topic at hand. I hope.
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10-02-2003, 09:52 PM | #25 | |
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Ok cool, now can we start discussion whether the balrog has wings or not?
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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10-02-2003, 10:01 PM | #26 | |
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10-02-2003, 10:08 PM | #27 | |
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Soldier #1: Where'd you get the coconuts? Arthur: We found them. Soldier #1: Found them? In Mercia? The coconut's tropical! Arthur: What do you mean? Soldier #1: Well, this is a temperate zone. Arthur: The balrog may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land? Soldier #1: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate? Arthur: Not at all. They could be carried. Soldier #1: What? A balrog carrying a coconut? Arthur: It could grip it by the husk! Soldier #1: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce balrog could not carry a one pound coconut. Arthur: Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here? Soldier #1: Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a balrog needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right? Arthur: Please! Soldier #1: Am I right? Arthur: I'm not interested! Soldier #2: It could be carried by an African balrog! Soldier #1: Oh, yeah, an African balrog maybe, but not a European balrog. That's my point. Soldier #2: Oh, yeah, I agree with that. Arthur: Will you ask your master if he wants to join my court at Camelot?! Soldier #1: But then of course a-- African balrogs are non-migratory. Soldier #2: Oh, yeah... Soldier #1: So, they couldn't bring a coconut back anyway... [clop clop clop] Soldier #2: Wait a minute! Supposing two balrogs carried it together? Soldier #1: No, they'd have to have it on a line. Soldier #2: Well, simple! They'd just use a strand of creeper! Soldier #1: What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers? Soldier #2: Well, why not? See, it's not about the size of the wings, it's how they use them!
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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10-03-2003, 06:25 AM | #28 |
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Someone mentioned the scenery
Hobbiton, Bag Eng, Bree, Isengard, Rivendell, Caradhras, Lorien, Edoras, Argonath, Helm's Deep, Barad-dur, Minas Tirith and especially Dwarrowdelf: all totally awesomely rendered. The bit where Gandalf "risks a little more light" in Moria still makes my hair stand on end.
Mordor: too close; The Shire: too mountainous; Rohan, not grassy enough. In the films, Middle-Earth seems smaller than it is in the books. |
10-03-2003, 07:08 AM | #29 |
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There have been some interesting comments posted here lately about the films. But I'd like to point out this thread is intended to address whether the movies have changed the way you now feel when reading the books.
As IronParrot has pointed out, there are other threads to post your feelings about the films. I'm truly sorry for the confusion about this. |
10-03-2003, 08:20 AM | #30 | |
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I don't really see how the movies could change my relationship with the book. After the second movie I almost see the movies and the book as telling two different stories. In that respect I'm thankful for the deviations from the book. BTW, welcome to the moot, Gaffer!
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10-06-2003, 09:18 AM | #31 | |
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Well, I find that the rendition of the world is so painstaking that both book and film denote the same thing in my mind. In that way, it's been an absolute joy to watch them; like having a long-distance relationship with someone, then moving to the same town and finding out that they're even better than you thought. |
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10-06-2003, 03:15 PM | #32 | |
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10-06-2003, 03:53 PM | #33 |
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Ah, the oft' quoted Holy Grail. Can't you guys think of something more original to joke about?
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10-07-2003, 04:11 PM | #36 | |
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10-08-2003, 07:53 AM | #37 | |
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But I have never attacked or trashed the books. Ever. My only crime has been defending Jackson's films against silly, unwarranted -- and often uninformed -- attacks. But that doesn't mean I'm playing the same 'basher game' that the Purists here play. Both the books and the films have some things about them that are not perfect. Over the course of our discussions here I've pointed out a few flaws from the books and the films. But I prefer to revel in the wonderful things about both rather than tear them down. |
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