Royal Wedding - William and Kate - Page 2

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-03-2011, 11:23 AM

I'm just crossing my fingers that Elizabeth outlives Charles.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-03-2011, 01:21 PM

There has been discussion about whether to have William follow immediately after Elizabeth and sort of by-pass Charles - is there any likelyhood of that to happen?

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-03-2011, 03:02 PM

Surely that would require changing the succession laws? It seems unlikely that Parliament will do that. Particularly since, if I understand correctly, the succession laws of all Commonwealth realms, which I would think would get very sticky indeed.

**Mari** · 05-03-2011, 03:33 PM

I'm pretty certain Charles could refuse the throne. Or abdicate.
There's a persistent rumour that Charles and Elisabeth agreed that Charles could marry Camilla if he wouldn't succeed Elisabeth.

***Varnafindë*** · 05-04-2011, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mari

I'm pretty certain Charles could refuse the throne. Or abdicate.

I agree. After all, his grand-uncle did.

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There's a persistent rumour that Charles and Elisabeth agreed that Charles could marry Camilla if he wouldn't succeed Elisabeth.

I hadn't heard the rumour about that agreement - but I don't see it as impossible.

There may be changes of the succession laws to have the oldest child inherit regardless of gender, though. Currently a younger brother will take the throne, even if he has an older sister. This would only come into effect for Will and Kate's children.

Crown Prince Haakon of Norway has a daughter who will eventually become Queen of Norway. Like Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden, she has a younger brother who will remain a Prince and not become King.

The Gaffer · 05-04-2011, 11:42 AM

My understanding is that there is an issue due to Charles and Camilla not being married in the eyes of the Church, because they are divorcees and therefore not married. This is why they got married in a registry office and not a church.

The head of state is tied up with the head of the Church, because we don't mess about with any of that separation of Church and State nonsense round these parts.

So she may never be known as Queen Camilla. Shame, it would have annoyed so many people.

***Earniel*** · 05-04-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mari

That's not true. The second prince has a son who will be the next emperor after the two princes die.
They were moving to change the law so Aiko could become empress, but that movement grounded to an abrupt halt when her male cousin was born.

Kind of funny that over here, (according to rumour of course, because they'll never confirm it) our previous King arranged it so that the royal succession would include female heirs from then on in order to prevent our second prince from ever becoming king. And mostly nobody quite blamed him for that, except maybe the prince in question...

inked · 05-04-2011, 05:48 PM

Care to speculate on the likelihood that the Royal Honeymoon plans were changed due to a heads up on the up-coming decapitation of Al-Quaeda and consequent insecurity? It will probably be as productive as the Charles-Camilla succession speculation!

Gwaimir Windgem · 05-04-2011, 11:33 PM

I was on the bus all day when the wedding was actually one, and I just got around to watching it.

She was gorgeous! I loved that dress, and those tiny smiles she couldn't keep off her face while he was saying his vows!

The Gaffer · 07-26-2011, 05:04 AM

Not tonight, Josephine!

Grey_Wolf · 07-26-2011, 05:25 AM

Are they showing it on a re-run? The wedding was on the 29th of April - or they re-marrying already just for good measure?

05-03-2011, 11:23 AM	#21
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I'm just crossing my fingers that Elizabeth outlives Charles. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

05-03-2011, 01:21 PM	#22
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	There has been discussion about whether to have William follow immediately after Elizabeth and sort of by-pass Charles - is there any likelyhood of that to happen? __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

05-03-2011, 03:02 PM	#23
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Surely that would require changing the succession laws? It seems unlikely that Parliament will do that. Particularly since, if I understand correctly, the succession laws of all Commonwealth realms, which I would think would get very sticky indeed. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

05-03-2011, 03:33 PM	#24
Mari Elf Lady Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In the lands where mountains are but a fairytale Posts: 8,588	I'm pretty certain Charles could refuse the throne. Or abdicate. There's a persistent rumour that Charles and Elisabeth agreed that Charles could marry Camilla if he wouldn't succeed Elisabeth. __________________ Love always, deeply and true ★ Friends are those rare people who ask how we are and then wait to hear the answer. ★ Friendship is sharing openly, laughing often, trusting always, caring deeply. ...The Earth laughs in flowers ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson, "Hamatreya"...

05-04-2011, 05:48 PM	#28
inked Elf Lord Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sikeston, MO, usa, earth, sol Posts: 3,114	Care to speculate on the likelihood that the Royal Honeymoon plans were changed due to a heads up on the up-coming decapitation of Al-Quaeda and consequent insecurity? It will probably be as productive as the Charles-Camilla succession speculation! __________________ Inked "Aslan is not a tame lion." CSL/LWW "The new school [acts] as if it required...courage to say a blasphemy. There is only one thing that requires real courage to say, and that is a truism." GK Chesterton "And there is always the danger of allowing people to suppose that our modern times are so wholly unlike any other times that the fundamental facts about man's nature have wholly changed with changing circumstances." Dorothy L. Sayers, 1 Sept. 1941 Last edited by inked : 05-04-2011 at 05:48 PM. Reason: speliingi

05-04-2011, 11:42 AM	#26
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	My understanding is that there is an issue due to Charles and Camilla not being married in the eyes of the Church, because they are divorcees and therefore not married. This is why they got married in a registry office and not a church. The head of state is tied up with the head of the Church, because we don't mess about with any of that separation of Church and State nonsense round these parts. So she may never be known as Queen Camilla. Shame, it would have annoyed so many people.

05-04-2011, 11:33 PM	#29
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	I was on the bus all day when the wedding was actually one, and I just got around to watching it. She was gorgeous! I loved that dress, and those tiny smiles she couldn't keep off her face while he was saying his vows! __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

07-26-2011, 05:04 AM	#30
The Gaffer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In me taters Posts: 3,288	Not tonight, Josephine!

07-26-2011, 05:25 AM	#31
Grey_Wolf Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, well actually I live in North-west Scania, Sweden Posts: 9,481	Are they showing it on a re-run? The wedding was on the 29th of April - or they re-marrying already just for good measure? Last edited by Grey_Wolf : 07-26-2011 at 05:27 AM.