01-21-2006, 02:50 PM | #361 |
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sounds fun, Shah! (the Viv thing)
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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01-21-2006, 05:01 PM | #363 |
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I was thinking, maybe part of the issue here is that this wasn't a new rpg when it started - it came from (from what I can tell) kind of a fun, Nazgul-centered thing where they pretty much did what they wanted, and I'm guessing the "good" characters were public or were not important or developed. Am I right? Anyway, here it's different, and that makes it a bit harder, but a lot more challenging and rewarding and interesting, too, IMO. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. So stick with it, Gordie and other FOEADs - IMO, it's a good idea and worth hashing out all the details, and we'll be sure to run our ideas by you guys if they involve how your characters would act or think. (Gordie, did you notice I got in a kiss between Rian and the ML? She's awaiting his love-struck serenade ... ) (ps - if you miss the old one, maybe make a fun "Nazguls Gone Wild" type of rpg where the "good" characters are all public and can get knocked off right and left in a kind of South Park style , then you guys can stay here for the more serious one but blow off steam in that one! )
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 01-21-2006 at 05:02 PM. |
01-21-2006, 05:14 PM | #364 |
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There is already an all Nazgûl one called Fellowship of the Ringwraiths, based on LotR but how it would have been if the Nazgûl had come out of the War of the Ring better.
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01-21-2006, 05:42 PM | #365 |
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Yes, well, this isnt that RPG, which is kinda hard to keep in mind since its the same characters and, for the FOEADs, hopefully the same outcome. But either way, please note, the good guys are gonna swamp your pirates. We aren't fools, in game or out!
So, beware two 7'4" giants swinging heavy bits of sharp metal. 600 pirates...that's no teaparty. Secondly, do the pirates know why they are there? If the answer is yes, do they really care that they are only trying to scare Val into building a fleet? Probably not. They have shown their serious intent by already sacking a town, taking slaves and razing a village. (Shah's first priority once he finds out is to free the captives) I hope we at Tharbad have a good fire department.
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In retrospect we could say we allowed you nazgul to have a lot of powers you normally wouldn't have. But that discussion has been done to the death and I don't think that keeping further score of what argument the other party allegedly 'won' or 'lost' is going to get us anywhere. Now let's see how we can make this work so all parties involved are satisfied or get at least part of what they want to accomplish. I gather most people are for the game, if some conditions are met. The fight will in the end most affect Valandil's character so I think we should take his objections into account. I'm going to put forth a suggestion which I think will be a good compromise, feel free to disagree or to adjust. Twelve pirate ships approach Tharbad. Valandil's warning system starts beeping, he dispatches a part of Tharbad's troops to deal with it. The operation is kept secret as not to upset the public. No need to cause needless panic, is there? So the bonfire will go on as planned. Most of the pirates and their ships are dealt with (sorry Gordis, it looks like it comes down to ship numbers again). Some (say about between 50 and 100 or something) managed to slip away before Tharbad's forces attacked the pirates. Suppose they left their ships and approached by land or changed to, or hijacked fishing boats or something. The Chancellor might have made provisions for that. Those pirates still can attack Tharbad, the damage then cannot be extensive but Tharbad still can get a fight that ends with the pirates being effectively obliterated. Parts of the squadron of Tharbad and say Mahtaliel would have warning of the possibility of pirates getting through, the public would not. Would this be more workable for everyone? A question of my own, if we go through with the attack: where will all the festivities and bonfire take place? All over the city, on the rochdol field?
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*bows to Earniel* Thank you for articulating that. I fully agree, after all, Val is king, and if this goes off under his noes, he will be tarnished. Remember, he has most loyal Shah, Ray and Marty to carry out his orders.
Hang on, I think that Shah will send his falcon first, including the dispatch warning the good guys of the slaves taken on the pirate ships, so when they attack they dont sink them outright.
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No, i didnt catch that part...I dunno, it just doesn't ring true to me. Something is off. But I give up with you lot, do as you wish, so long as I can kill something and leave with dignity.
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Earniel, thank you for posting your idea. It might work to everyone's satisfaction.
But one thing - you all speak of Val's warning beeper or, as Rian puts it, "radar system". It depends on the KIND of Radar. If this radar is the smoke coming for 230 leagues (or 380 km) without dissipating, or a person who sees the burning village at that distance- that I don't buy, sorry. It is against common sense. I was forced to agree to it, but I KNOW that it is improbable. So don't expect me to be happy about it. If the radar is a PALANTIR in Val's hands - then I do buy it. But Val said long ago that he hasn't brought any with him. If it is a bird with tidings, then it is probable. If it is another revelation made by Val's talkative sword - no. If it is a messenger - It is highly likely, but he will hardly arrive in time. It might be a boat coming on the wind before the pirate party - quite fine. There must be plenty of small boats on the river. It might be a patrol who sends the warning. So, the warning should better come by PLAUSIBLE means. Last edited by Gordis : 01-21-2006 at 08:12 PM. |
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That is nice that you have put that little example here, Rian. That is how wargames are played. The idea is to get an upper hand, by all the means allowed. When this approach is applied to a writing project, where the aim is to get a COHERENT and INTERESTING story, then it is ruinous. Now the story is written by all. Don't think I want that fight so badly for the benifit of my characters. No. I want it for the sake of an interesting story. And others want this as well. We are making concessions. Your side does also. And Val will not "look like an idiot" if something in his line of intelligence, or his radar system goes wrong. It happens. Was Turgon an idiot? Was Turin one? Quote:
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Shah - That was a great bio over there in the Info thread, about Captain Shah. That man has really been through it. That's cool how he was sent to Elrond's like that to recuperate and the connexion made there between he and Mahtaliel; now it's quite clear how come they're such "soul-friend" kind of people to each other.
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