Tolkien's Languages - Page 18

Ruinel · 07-13-2003, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Whoops! Meant to say, "on the contrary, I am still here."

Ah, no problem.

I thought that was a little strange.

Haryan maurÃ« an arwa [temper]-nya. Ni nÃ¡rnÃ« vinya [Orli-fangirl], [spams]-rÃ« ve lÃ¡ quÃ©n istan.

Ni nurnÃ« an Entmoot harni, ar i tyelima nirmÃ«, liarya nÃ© pahta.

AlassÃ«!!!

Elf Girl · 07-13-2003, 06:52 PM

*catiously pokes nose in* How do you say 'The Orli-fangirl is now a Smelly Orc'?

Falagar · 07-13-2003, 07:15 PM

'I Orli-melindo nÃ¡ urco yoloiÃ«', perhaps?

Ruinel · 07-13-2003, 07:26 PM

yay!

AlassÃ«!!! AlassÃ«!!!

I Orli-melindo nÃ¡ saura urco!!! Wheeee!

Elf Girl · 07-13-2003, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
AlassÃ«!!! AlassÃ«!!!

AlassÃ« is my elf-sister's name.

AlassÃ«! AlassÃ«!

On a more serious note, how does one say 'yes' in Quenya? I can't find it anywhere!

Ruinel · 07-13-2003, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elf Girl
AlassÃ« is my elf-sister's name.

AlassÃ«! AlassÃ«!

On a more serious note, how does one say 'yes' in Quenya? I can't find it anywhere!

You could say 'sanda'... which is 'true'. That's what I do.

AlassÃ« nÃ¡ sellya? MÃ¡ra quendÃ« essÃ«.

Joy is your sister? Good Elf name.

Elf Girl · 07-13-2003, 09:19 PM

Sanda! Sanda!

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
AlassÃ« nÃ¡ sellya? MÃ¡ra quendÃ« essÃ«.

*shamelessly gets out wordlist and translates* Whee! I got it right! Yes, it is. My father knew Quenya, he gave both me and AlassÃ« names in that language.

AlassÃ« was his first child, I'll bet he was joyful.

Alas, she fled West with my mother.

Gulio, Strength of Many · 07-13-2003, 09:28 PM

Balin Fundinul Uzbad KhazÃ¢d-dÃ»mu! Gabilgundu, KhazÃ¢d-dÃ»m!

Ruinel · 07-13-2003, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Alas, she fled West with my mother.

Ai, lelyanerÃ«, ar ammelya, an Valinor? Ar elyÃ« nÃ¡ er, ar hÃ³vahÃ¡ya nosselya, va ni.

Istan i ambapenda tiÃ« ya vantalmÃ« nÃ¡ i tiÃ« yo Atani. HaryalyÃ« estel an Atani, ar umin .

Alas, she went, and your mother, to Valinor? And even thou is alone, and far away from your kin, as I. I know the uphill path which we walk is the path with Men. You possess hope for Men, and I do not.

Gulio, Strength of Many · 07-13-2003, 11:52 PM

MÃªnu ruhks bund! KhazÃ¢d aglab gabil!

Ruinel · 07-14-2003, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gulio, Strength of Many
MÃªnu ruhks bund! KhazÃ¢d aglab gabil!

Elen sÃ*la lÃºmenn' omentielvo, Gulio.

Mana i sinomÃ« yassÃ« hirnelyÃ« quettaparmalla?

A star shines upon the hour of our meeting, Gulio. What is the place in which you found your word list?

Elf Girl · 07-14-2003, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
Ai, lelyanerÃ«, ar ammelya, an Valinor? Ar elyÃ« nÃ¡ er, ar hÃ³vahÃ¡ya nosselya, va ni. Istan i ambapenda tiÃ« ya vantalmÃ« nÃ¡ i tiÃ« yo Atani. HaryalyÃ« estel an Atani, ar umin.

Ã harya estel, RÃºnyel.

Gulio, Strength of Many · 07-14-2003, 02:58 PM

I got my wordlist at the link at the start of the thread.

Aya Barazinbar felek.

Falagar · 07-14-2003, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gulio, Strength of Many
I got my wordlist at the link at the start of the thread.

Aya Barazinbar felek.

"Upon Redhorn hew rock"?

Ruinel · 07-14-2003, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Ã harya estel, RÃºnyel.

Nan Atani nar nwalca anna lienta. Ni velier sin. Ilestel haryan an Atani. Lastalto lÃ¡ an Quendi. lÃ¡rnta nar pahta an me sÃ*.

But Men are cruel toward their people. I have seen this. No hope/trust I possess for/to Men. They listen not to/for (the) Elves. Their ears are closed to us now.

Gulio, uin ista i Casari lambÃ«. Ni quet er Quenya lambÃ« ar Atani lambÃ«.

Ni estel liÃ« tuluva ar tec an elyÃ«.

Gulio, I do not know the Darven tongue. I speak only Elven tongue and Mannish tongue. I hope people shall come and write for you.

Elf Girl · 07-14-2003, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
Nan Atani nar nwalca anna lienta. Ni velier sin. Ilestel haryan an Atani. Lastalto lÃ¡ an Quendi. lÃ¡rnta nar pahta an me sÃ*.

Lastuvantes. Estel haryan.

Ruinel · 07-15-2003, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Lastuvantes. Estel haryan.

Translation:
shall listen-they-it (they shall listen it). Hope/trust I possess.

(Ok, training wheels off now.

)

Ni estel an fealya, Quendewen, ta fealya nÃ¡ ÃºrÃ¡cina estelanen an Atani. OhtacÃ¡rente yo queninte.

AlassÃ«, ta utÃºliel ar tec sÃ*men.

Ar limbÃ« liÃ« tul sÃ*men, Atani, Quendi, NaucaliÃ«, ar Periannath.

Elf Girl · 07-15-2003, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
...(they shall listen it)...

Whoops, didn't mean to put the S on the end.

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
(Ok, training wheels off now. )

*groan* Where do you get your wordlist? I got mine at the Ardalambion but it doesn't have all the words you use...

If you don't give me your wordlist(s) this might take me awhile.

Ruinel · 07-15-2003, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Elf Girl
Whoops, didn't mean to put the S on the end.

*groan* Where do you get your wordlist? I got mine at the Ardalambion but it doesn't have all the words you use...

If you don't give me your wordlist(s) this might take me awhile.

The words I use are based on the same words you have in your wordlist, I suspect. I will help if I can. As well, those that post here on a regular basis will help also.

I have two wordlists from Ardalambion: Quenya-English and English-Quenya. It also helps to know how to use the words in a sentence, proper tense, prefixes and suffixes, etc. You can find that under 'course' at Ardalambion. If you have trouble finding it, let me know and I'll try to help.

I'll post it again with a spoiler. You can use the spoiler if you want.

Haryan estel an fealya, Quendewen, ta fealya nÃ¡ ÃºrÃ¡cina estelanen an Atani. OhtacÃ¡rente yo queninta.

I-possess hope/trust for your spirit, Elfgirl, that your spirit is not-broken (ÃºrÃ¡cina= Ãº+rÃ¡cina='not'+'broken') by hope/trust for Man. They-make-war-upon (OhtacÃ¡rente=ohtacÃ¡rÃ«=nte='make war upon'+'they') with their-people (queninte =queni+nta= 'people'+'their')

AlassÃ«, ta utÃºliel ar tec sÃ*men. Ar limbÃ« liÃ« tul sÃ*men, Atani, Quendi, NaucaliÃ«, ar Periannath.

Joy, that you-have-come (utÃºliel=utÃºlie+l ='have come' + 'you') and write here. And many people come here, Men, Elves, Dwarves, and Hobbits.

Falagar · 07-15-2003, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel

Ni estel an fealya, Quendewen, ta fealya nÃ¡ ÃºrÃ¡cina estelanen an Atani. OhtacÃ¡rente yo queninte.

I hope/trust for your spirit, Elfgirl, that your spirit is not-broken (ÃºrÃ¡cina= Ãº+rÃ¡cina='not'+'broken') by hope/trust for Man. They-make-war-upon (OhtacÃ¡rente=ohtacÃ¡rÃ«=nte='make war upon'+'they') with their-people (queninte =queni+nte= 'people'+'their')

AlassÃ«, ta utÃºliel ar tec sÃ*men. Ar limbÃ« liÃ« tul sÃ*men, Atani, Quendi, NaucaliÃ«, ar Periannath.

Joy, that you-have-come (utÃºliel=utÃºlie+l ='have come' + 'you') and write here. And many people come here, Men, Elves, Dwarves, and Hobbits.

Estel is not a verb.
-nte ("they") should be possessive -nta ("their").

Nothing else to add

07-13-2003, 06:52 PM	#342
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: LothlÃ³rien Posts: 3,419	catiously pokes nose in How do you say 'The Orli-fangirl is now a Smelly Orc'? __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

07-13-2003, 07:15 PM	#343
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	'I Orli-melindo nÃ¡ urco yoloiÃ«', perhaps? __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

07-13-2003, 09:28 PM	#348
Gulio, Strength of Many Lover of all things orange and cheesy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On a smokestack eating my the chekt. Posts: 1,045	Balin Fundinul Uzbad KhazÃ¢d-dÃ»mu! Gabilgundu, KhazÃ¢d-dÃ»m! __________________ El Poco Diablo is watching you... It was like the Manifest Destiny all over again, except, instead of taking and consuming everything in their paths for God, they did so with the same fervor and sense of entitlement for their new god... themselves. If you want to know more about Jesus, have a prayer need, or want to talk about anything, PM me.

07-13-2003, 11:52 PM	#350
Gulio, Strength of Many Lover of all things orange and cheesy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On a smokestack eating my the chekt. Posts: 1,045	MÃªnu ruhks bund! KhazÃ¢d aglab gabil! __________________ El Poco Diablo is watching you... It was like the Manifest Destiny all over again, except, instead of taking and consuming everything in their paths for God, they did so with the same fervor and sense of entitlement for their new god... themselves. If you want to know more about Jesus, have a prayer need, or want to talk about anything, PM me.

07-14-2003, 02:58 PM	#353
Gulio, Strength of Many Lover of all things orange and cheesy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On a smokestack eating my the chekt. Posts: 1,045	I got my wordlist at the link at the start of the thread. Aya Barazinbar felek. __________________ El Poco Diablo is watching you... It was like the Manifest Destiny all over again, except, instead of taking and consuming everything in their paths for God, they did so with the same fervor and sense of entitlement for their new god... themselves. If you want to know more about Jesus, have a prayer need, or want to talk about anything, PM me.

07-13-2003, 07:26 PM	#344
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	yay! AlassÃ«!!! AlassÃ«!!! I Orli-melindo nÃ¡ saura urco!!! Wheeee!

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