Lore Masters' Quote Game - Part 1 - Page 18

***Varnafindë*** · 05-21-2010, 05:52 PM

"Twere little loss if I were dead,
and I am minded all to tell,
and thus, perchance, from this dark hell
thy life to loose. I set thee free
from thine old oath, for more for me
hast thou endured than e'er was/_a_n_d/."

earned?

***Earniel*** · 05-21-2010, 06:14 PM

Correct!

Which leaves only the speaker to be found.

***Varnafindë*** · 08-21-2010, 12:10 PM

Does anyone know who said this?
I have no idea, not even of the occasion where it is said.

Please - I'd like to see this game running again, but I don't have enough knowledge.

***Earniel*** · 08-23-2010, 09:00 AM

Oh, I had forgotten it was my quote that was still 'open'!

I'll give a hint as to finding the speaker. The oath mentioned is the key. Think of someone who did indeed endure much to see an old oath fullfulled, and it may become clear to you to whom the speaker is speaking and what his own identity is.

***Varnafindë*** · 08-23-2010, 10:27 AM

Not all that clear, as I'm not sure which oath we're speaking of ...
Could it be Beren and Finrod and all that Ring of Barahir business? And would it then be Beren speaking to Finrod?

***Earniel*** · 08-24-2010, 07:34 AM

Ah yes, there are quite a bit of oaths taken in the Silmarillion events.

But you guessed correctly, it is indeed Beren talking to Finrod, from the Lays of Beleriand.

Your turn, then.

***Varnafindë*** · 09-25-2010, 06:43 PM

H_a_k_n/_o_/,/O/_a_a_/!/T_/m_/f_r_t_l_i_g/_s/_r_n_e_/n_/l_s_/
_h_n/_o_m/,/_n_/I/_i_l/_r_c_a_m/_o_/t_/y_u/_h_n_s/_o_h/_e_r/_n_/
f_r/./_e_o_d/!/_n_i_/t_e/_a_r/_h_l_/b_/m_d_/g_a_/a_d/_r_i_f_l/,/_h_/
_i_h_/e_s_/h_v_/b_e_/s_l_t_r_/./F_r/_o_/i_/d_a_h/_n_y/_a_h/_h_/
S_a_o_/e_t_r_d/_n_o/_m_n/_i_h/_h_/c_m_n_/o_/t_e/_h_l_r_n/
_e_t_n_d/_o/_u_f_r/;/_h_r_/a_e/_t_e_/s_r_o_s/,/_v_n/_f/_h_y/_e/_e_s/./

Count Comfect · 10-16-2010, 01:33 AM

Harken now, O Valar! To me...

Midge · 10-16-2010, 04:53 PM

Harken now, O Valar! To me /f_r_t_l_i_g/is granted no less than /_o_m/,/
and I will/_r_c_a_m/_o_/to you things both near and far.
Behold/!/_n_i_/the/_a_r/shall be made gray and/_r_i_f_l/,/
the/_i_h_/east have been solitary.
For/_o_/is death only/_a_h/_h_/Sauron entered into Aman with the coming of the Children/_e_t_n_d/to sulfur;
There are other serious, even if they be /_e_s/./

Count Comfect · 10-16-2010, 05:56 PM

Gonna guess that's actually "suffer" and "sorrows" instead of "sulfur" and "serious." Even if they "be less"?

***Earniel*** · 10-16-2010, 06:07 PM

"I will proclaim now"?

***Varnafindë*** · 10-18-2010, 01:02 PM

"Harken" in the first line isn't quite right - there's a letter missing from H_a_k_n/, but I won't simply say it's wrong, because then you might be misled.

Midge - good job! Just some few mistakes.
"gray" in line 3 is wrong.
"the" and "east" in line 4 are wrong.
"is" in line 5 is wrong - so is "Sauron" in the same line. Compare to S_a_o_/.

Count Comfect is right in his corrections and additions - so is Eärniel.

So now we have

H_a_k_n/ now, O Valar! To me /f_r_t_l_i_g/is granted no less than /_o_m/,/
and I will proclaim now to you things both near and far.
Behold/!/_n_i_/the/_a_r/shall be made /g_a_/ and/_r_i_f_l/,/
_h_/_i_h_/e_s_/ have been solitary.
For/_o_/i_/ death only/_a_h/_h_/S_a_o_/ entered into Aman with the coming of the Children/_e_t_n_d/to suffer;
there are other sorrows, even if they be less.

***Rían*** · 10-18-2010, 04:21 PM

are the first three hearken, foretelling and doom?

and then for not in death only ? the Shadow entered ... destined

Gwaimir Windgem · 10-18-2010, 10:06 PM

Between "not in death" and "the Shadow entered," hath. And the first word of line 4, I'm guessing is who.

***Earniel*** · 10-19-2010, 05:15 AM

"H_a_k_n/ now, O Valar! To me foretelling is granted no less than doom, and I will proclaim now to you things both near and far. Behold! Until the/_a_r/shall be made glad and/_r_i_f_l/, thy light e_s_/ have been solitary. For not in death only hath the Shadow entered into Aman with the coming of the Children destined to suffer; there are other sorrows, even if they be less."

***Varnafindë*** · 10-19-2010, 11:29 AM

Rian - yes!
Gwaimir - yes!

Eärniel - "glad" is correct

We now have:

Hearken now, O Valar! To me foretelling is granted no less than doom,
and I will proclaim now to you things both near and far.
Behold! /_n_i_/the/_a_r/shall be made glad and/_r_i_f_l/,/
who _i_h_/e_s_/ have been solitary.
For not in death only hath the Shadow entered into Aman with the coming of the Children destined to suffer;
there are other sorrows, even if they be less.

Missing 5 words and the speaker.

***Rían*** · 10-19-2010, 04:32 PM

"Annie the fair" shall be made glad?

***Varnafindë*** · 10-20-2010, 11:10 AM

Not "Annie the fair", but "someone else the fair".

We're getting closer ...

***Rían*** · 10-21-2010, 01:04 AM

Indis and fruitful? and is the last one "else"? I'm stuck on that other one ...

Is the speaker one of the Valar?

***Varnafindë*** · 10-21-2010, 02:45 PM

You are right so far - one of the Valar indeed!

"Hearken now, O Valar! To me foretelling is granted no less than doom, and I will proclaim now to you things both near and far. Behold! Indis the fair shall be made glad and fruitful, who /_i_h_/ else have been solitary. For not in death only hath the Shadow entered into Aman with the coming of the Children destined to suffer; there are other sorrows, even if they be less."

So one word left - and then which Vala?

05-21-2010, 05:52 PM	#341
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	"Twere little loss if I were dead, and I am minded all to tell, and thus, perchance, from this dark hell thy life to loose. I set thee free from thine old oath, for more for me hast thou endured than e'er was/_a_n_d/." earned? __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen Last edited by Varnafindë : 05-21-2010 at 06:17 PM. Reason: Adding the quote at the top of the page

05-21-2010, 06:14 PM	#342
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Correct! Which leaves only the speaker to be found. __________________ We are not things.

08-21-2010, 12:10 PM	#343
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	Does anyone know who said this? I have no idea, not even of the occasion where it is said. Please - I'd like to see this game running again, but I don't have enough knowledge. __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

08-23-2010, 09:00 AM	#344
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Oh, I had forgotten it was my quote that was still 'open'! I'll give a hint as to finding the speaker. The oath mentioned is the key. Think of someone who did indeed endure much to see an old oath fullfulled, and it may become clear to you to whom the speaker is speaking and what his own identity is. __________________ We are not things.

08-23-2010, 10:27 AM	#345
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	Not all that clear, as I'm not sure which oath we're speaking of ... Could it be Beren and Finrod and all that Ring of Barahir business? And would it then be Beren speaking to Finrod? __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

08-24-2010, 07:34 AM	#346
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	Ah yes, there are quite a bit of oaths taken in the Silmarillion events. But you guessed correctly, it is indeed Beren talking to Finrod, from the Lays of Beleriand. Your turn, then. __________________ We are not things.

09-25-2010, 06:43 PM	#347
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	H_a_k_n/_o_/,/O/_a_a_/!/T_/m_/f_r_t_l_i_g/_s/_r_n_e_/n_/l_s_/ _h_n/_o_m/,/_n_/I/_i_l/_r_c_a_m/_o_/t_/y_u/_h_n_s/_o_h/_e_r/_n_/ f_r/./_e_o_d/!/_n_i_/t_e/_a_r/_h_l_/b_/m_d_/g_a_/a_d/_r_i_f_l/,/_h_/ _i_h_/e_s_/h_v_/b_e_/s_l_t_r_/./F_r/_o_/i_/d_a_h/_n_y/_a_h/_h_/ S_a_o_/e_t_r_d/_n_o/_m_n/_i_h/_h_/c_m_n_/o_/t_e/_h_l_r_n/ _e_t_n_d/_o/_u_f_r/;/_h_r_/a_e/_t_e_/s_r_o_s/,/_v_n/_f/_h_y/_e/_e_s/./ __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

10-16-2010, 01:33 AM	#348
Count Comfect Word Santa Claus Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,922	Harken now, O Valar! To me... __________________ Sufficient to have stood, yet free to fall.

10-16-2010, 04:53 PM	#349
Midge Faithful Gardener Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I walk here and there, they say... Posts: 3,603	Harken now, O Valar! To me /f_r_t_l_i_g/is granted no less than /_o_m/,/ and I will/_r_c_a_m/_o_/to you things both near and far. Behold/!/_n_i_/the/_a_r/shall be made gray and/_r_i_f_l/,/ the/_i_h_/east have been solitary. For/_o_/is death only/_a_h/_h_/Sauron entered into Aman with the coming of the Children/_e_t_n_d/to sulfur; There are other serious, even if they be /_e_s/./ __________________ In God I trust, I will not be afraid. What can man do to me? Psalm 56:11 "Starbuck, what do you hear?" "Nothin' but the rain, sir!" "Then grab your gun and bring in the cat." Make sure to check out the C.S. Lewis forum. Game threads, movie and book discussions and more! Last edited by Midge : 10-16-2010 at 04:54 PM.

10-16-2010, 05:56 PM	#350
Count Comfect Word Santa Claus Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,922	Gonna guess that's actually "suffer" and "sorrows" instead of "sulfur" and "serious." Even if they "be less"? __________________ Sufficient to have stood, yet free to fall.

10-16-2010, 06:07 PM	#351
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	"I will proclaim now"? __________________ We are not things.

10-18-2010, 01:02 PM	#352
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	"Harken" in the first line isn't quite right - there's a letter missing from H_a_k_n/, but I won't simply say it's wrong, because then you might be misled. Midge - good job! Just some few mistakes. "gray" in line 3 is wrong. "the" and "east" in line 4 are wrong. "is" in line 5 is wrong - so is "Sauron" in the same line. Compare to S_a_o_/. Count Comfect is right in his corrections and additions - so is Eärniel. So now we have H_a_k_n/ now, O Valar! To me /f_r_t_l_i_g/is granted no less than /_o_m/,/ and I will proclaim now to you things both near and far. Behold/!/_n_i_/the/_a_r/shall be made /g_a_/ and/_r_i_f_l/,/ _h_/_i_h_/e_s_/ have been solitary. For/_o_/i_/ death only/_a_h/_h_/S_a_o_/ entered into Aman with the coming of the Children/_e_t_n_d/to suffer; there are other sorrows, even if they be less. __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

10-18-2010, 04:21 PM	#353
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	are the first three hearken, foretelling and doom? and then for not in death only ? the Shadow entered ... destined __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 10-18-2010 at 04:24 PM.

10-18-2010, 10:06 PM	#354
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Between "not in death" and "the Shadow entered," hath. And the first word of line 4, I'm guessing is who. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

10-19-2010, 05:15 AM	#355
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	"H_a_k_n/ now, O Valar! To me foretelling is granted no less than doom, and I will proclaim now to you things both near and far. Behold! Until the/_a_r/shall be made glad and/_r_i_f_l/, thy light e_s_/ have been solitary. For not in death only hath the Shadow entered into Aman with the coming of the Children destined to suffer; there are other sorrows, even if they be less." __________________ We are not things.

10-19-2010, 11:29 AM	#356
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	Rian - yes! Gwaimir - yes! Eärniel - "glad" is correct We now have: Hearken now, O Valar! To me foretelling is granted no less than doom, and I will proclaim now to you things both near and far. Behold! /_n_i_/the/_a_r/shall be made glad and/_r_i_f_l/,/ who _i_h_/e_s_/ have been solitary. For not in death only hath the Shadow entered into Aman with the coming of the Children destined to suffer; there are other sorrows, even if they be less. Missing 5 words and the speaker. __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

10-19-2010, 04:32 PM	#357
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	"Annie the fair" shall be made glad? __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva!

10-20-2010, 11:10 AM	#358
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	Not "Annie the fair", but "someone else the fair". We're getting closer ... __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen Last edited by Varnafindë : 10-20-2010 at 11:11 AM.

10-21-2010, 01:04 AM	#359
*Rían* Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!) Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Not where I want to be ... Posts: 15,254	Indis and fruitful? and is the last one "else"? I'm stuck on that other one ... Is the speaker one of the Valar? __________________ . I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 10-21-2010 at 01:42 AM.

10-21-2010, 02:45 PM	#360
*Varnafindë* Princess of the Noldor (and Administrative Empress of the Lone Islands) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imladris (and sometimes Norway) Posts: 3,304	You are right so far - one of the Valar indeed! "Hearken now, O Valar! To me foretelling is granted no less than doom, and I will proclaim now to you things both near and far. Behold! Indis the fair shall be made glad and fruitful, who /_i_h_/ else have been solitary. For not in death only hath the Shadow entered into Aman with the coming of the Children destined to suffer; there are other sorrows, even if they be less." So one word left - and then which Vala? __________________ Signature picture art - Bard the Bowman - by vigshane Avatar art - Footsteps of Spring (a young Luthien) - by Henning Janssen

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