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Old 04-29-2008, 05:20 PM   #341
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Okay, back to the basics. What language do humans speak?
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Old 04-29-2008, 05:23 PM   #342
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weston which not any of them unless you learnt it special!

i think its safe to say you dont know what their saying. you could always ask Nami to translate, keep her mind off the big dark dark!

anyway im off to bed now. Dont leave Nami behind!
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Er...Quenya or Sindarin, whichever Quickleaf answered me in originally.
That would be Quenya
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Old 04-29-2008, 05:32 PM   #344
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That's what I thought. Okay
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Yay! *is very fond of Quenya*

Sorry, Mari! Yes, we'll have to get a translator from somewhere.

Edit: and I'm off to bed now too, shall rejoin you all tomorrow!
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Old 04-29-2008, 06:26 PM   #346
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ok, i ned ideas for what i can get my claustrophobic elf to do to stop from going underground and if she does go underground, (which i hope she does!) what she does once she down there! Its about time we saw an elf scaried of something!
Oh, don't worry, I have my manners to get people where I want. If underground she must, then underground Nami goes. And there can be much angsting.

Also, LOL at 'let's go home and have tea!'
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:32 PM   #347
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Okay, back to the basics. What language do humans speak?
There are many dialects in Middle Earth humans. The most common is the Westron which is most similar to English. The "Eastron" which the Easterlings speak is different, it's hard to really tell whatt they're saying. The Elves that were isolated from the western Elves had their own dialects as well.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:44 PM   #348
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Given the mix of peoples we're working with, I would guess that we've been speaking a mix of Sindarin and Westron. I know that I've been assuming Haldis to be at least a little bi-lingual. Anyway, at least half the party should have understood Tabril's Sindarin greeting.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:56 PM   #349
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Although Random Jokes could certainly be allowable, I think.
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or nami's ability to be really scared of the dark!
i think the way its going she's going to be very claustrophobic! i think id would be quite fun to have a claustrophobic, scaried of the dark, hyperactive elf underground to deal with!
LOL. BTW, loved the "Oh, random Elf says we should leave" comment. Classic!
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Er...Quenya or Sindarin, whichever Quickleaf answered me in originally.
That would mean Aelfwine has no idea what was just said as well

No worries, Mari, you're not the only one who needs a translater


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We'll be going to Rámil's camp first. There we can discuss some things with Tabril, offer tranlations and plan the underground exploration. Radagast has a map for that, no fears. We can also discuss then who goes underground. There will be multiple trips underground so everyone will eventually have the opportunity to have a shot at it, even if your character is reluctant to go in at first.
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:20 AM   #351
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That would mean Aelfwine has no idea what was just said as well

No worries, Mari, you're not the only one who needs a translator
I'm guessing Ellysa has trouble enough with speaking the language of the Northerners, so knowing much elven languages... nah. She'll be without.
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HAHA! Aelfwine will know not one Elven language, but Rohirrim and Common she's very fluent.

Who knows, by the end of this Quest everybody might know a little of the others' tongues
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Ooh, I'm having fun with Abasi now that Tabrîl has finally arrived. *evil grin*

As for languages, Abasi speaks Sindarin, Quenya, Westron, Eastron (since he's from the far East) and two dialects of Avarîn. As long as he's been around it would be unrealistic for him not to have picked up a good number of languages. Of course, just because he's able to speak many languages doesn't mean that he will, especially if someone annoys him in some way.

Aikanáro and I have had fun working on the complex social customs of the Avari (which are roughly based on another Sci Fi book that we both love, then combined with what litlte we know of the Avari - don't worry, nothing contradicts Tolkien's canon ). You've still got some suprises coming from them.

Oh, and BTW, the Avari hate being called Avari. It's rather an insult, being called 'Unwilling.'
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And yet Abasi introduced himself as an an Avari... does the poor dear have a self-esteem issue?

Though... aren't most of the Silvan elves of Lorien and Greenwood also technically Avari? I was under the impression that by the fourth age there were very few of the Sindar and even fewer Noldor still left in Arda.

Haldis is a very persistent woman when she gets curious about something. She will keep pestering those two.
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Well...he didn't like introducing himself as Avari, that's just what people knew him by. (Ok, so Aika and I hadn't worked out all the details yet when I joined. )

Hmm, I don't think they're Avari so much as just Moriquendi...probably Nandor. But I could be wrong on this.

And good about the pestering! Pestering is fun.
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I think most elves who would use the term Avari probably wouldn't differentiate between those three groups. I usually assume the terms Nandor and Silvan to be describing the same (or very similar) groups and the terms Avari and Moriquendi to be misnomers used by the Noldor to describe them.
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Well, from my understanding, the Avari were the ones who refused to leave with Oromë from Kuiviénen at all, while the Nandor and 'Silvan' elves (which I think are the same thing too) started on the journey, but left the voyage after crossing the mountains. Therefore, the Avari were further sundered, and located quite a bit further East than the Silvan/Nandor.
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That seems about right. But I doubt the elves who completed the journey would bother with the distinction.
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Oh, I doubt it too. But Abasi and Tabrîl probably care.

Well, I'm off to bed. Night, all!
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I'm still unsure as to what ancestry Quickleaf should have, but I'm sort of settling for Avari. Unsure though..
I guess Quickleaf could have roots in either the Wood-Elves in northern Mirkwood, or the Elves of Lorien.
He's a kind of 'international' elf though so doesn't really matter
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