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Old 12-20-2003, 08:33 AM   #341
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Sorry... that WAS an expression in use in the Shire.
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Old 12-20-2003, 12:11 PM   #342
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Wasn't it used for questions that had no real answer? It became an "old saying" in the culture. They weren't really looking for the king to actually come back!
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Old 12-21-2003, 07:32 PM   #343
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You're definitely on the right track... can you get any closer?
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Old 12-21-2003, 09:01 PM   #344
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was it something they said when they didn't want to do something?

like wimpy's "i'll gladly pay you next tuesday"
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It's used when there's some good that could not be achieved, or of some evil that could not be amended.

Yes, I sneaked a look in the book.
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Old 12-22-2003, 12:24 AM   #346
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Yes, I sneaked a look in the book.
Well Cass... sometimes that's what it takes on THIS thread! Your go...

Oh - and brownjenkins... there's something in PoME kind of like what you're saying... I think it was "Friday the First of the Month" since there's no hobbit month that has the 1st fall on a Friday. I mentioned it real early in this thread. I believe JRRT says that the full quote was "Friday the First of Summerfilth" (a non-existent month).
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Old 12-22-2003, 04:45 AM   #347
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Well Cass... sometimes that's what it takes on THIS thread! Your go...
I know -- I don't even think I've read all of the appendices yet.

Anyway: who's birthday was April 6th said to be?
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Old 12-22-2003, 08:26 AM   #348
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Was that Sam's b-day???
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Old 12-22-2003, 08:27 PM   #349
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That's correct!
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Old 12-23-2003, 01:38 AM   #350
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Name the first three kings of Arthedain.
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Old 12-23-2003, 01:44 AM   #351
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Amlaith, Beleg and Mallor

Thank you, I win!
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'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 12-23-2003, 01:53 AM   #352
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Amlaith, Beleg and Mallor

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Then by all means, ask away...
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Old 12-23-2003, 02:01 AM   #353
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What is the meaning of the 'Atani' or 'Edain'? (literal meaning, it is stated specifically it's true meaning)
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.'

'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 12-23-2003, 10:19 AM   #354
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'Manly men'

j/k... is it 'kings of men'?
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Old 12-24-2003, 01:11 AM   #355
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is it 'kings of men'?
Close, you have the second half of it correct

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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.'

'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

"Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!"
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Old 12-24-2003, 11:03 AM   #356
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does it mean "the second people"
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Old 12-24-2003, 01:23 PM   #357
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does it mean "the second people"
nope, look to Val's answer he had it half right...
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.'

'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

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Old 12-25-2003, 01:22 AM   #358
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Close, you have the second half of it correct

P.S. We're men in tiiiiiiiiiights!
Not "The Merry Men"... is it??
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Old 12-25-2003, 02:20 AM   #359
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Not "The Merry Men"... is it??
lol no
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.'

'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin

"Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!"
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Old 12-25-2003, 07:08 AM   #360
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P.S. We're men in tiiiiiiiiiights!
*entertains herself with mental images of Dúnedain in tights*

Well there's an interesting image.

Just be careful BoP doesn't swipe them aswell.

Ahum... as for the question: the Fathers of Men perhaps?
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