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Okay, back to the basics. What language do humans speak?
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weston which not any of them unless you learnt it special!
i think its safe to say you dont know what their saying. you could always ask Nami to translate, keep her mind off the big dark dark! anyway im off to bed now. Dont leave Nami behind!
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can you imagine what it would be like if we have walked all the way? ya, one of us could have died! Cause its extremely far! Last edited by feawen : 04-29-2008 at 05:27 PM. |
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Elf Lady
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That's what I thought. Okay
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Yay! *is very fond of Quenya*
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There are many dialects in Middle Earth humans. The most common is the Westron which is most similar to English. The "Eastron" which the Easterlings speak is different, it's hard to really tell whatt they're saying. The Elves that were isolated from the western Elves had their own dialects as well.
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Given the mix of peoples we're working with, I would guess that we've been speaking a mix of Sindarin and Westron. I know that I've been assuming Haldis to be at least a little bi-lingual. Anyway, at least half the party should have understood Tabril's Sindarin greeting.
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I think we've been doing that the entire game
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No worries, Mari, you're not the only one who needs a translater And welcome to the Moot, Amy! Looking forward to posting with you
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We'll be going to Rámil's camp first. There we can discuss some things with Tabril, offer tranlations and plan the underground exploration. Radagast has a map for that, no fears.
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HAHA! Aelfwine will know not one Elven language, but Rohirrim and Common she's very fluent.
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Ooh, I'm having fun with Abasi now that Tabrîl has finally arrived. *evil grin*
As for languages, Abasi speaks Sindarin, Quenya, Westron, Eastron (since he's from the far East) and two dialects of Avarîn. As long as he's been around it would be unrealistic for him not to have picked up a good number of languages. Of course, just because he's able to speak many languages doesn't mean that he will, especially if someone annoys him in some way. Aikanáro and I have had fun working on the complex social customs of the Avari (which are roughly based on another Sci Fi book that we both love, then combined with what litlte we know of the Avari - don't worry, nothing contradicts Tolkien's canon ![]() ![]() Oh, and BTW, the Avari hate being called Avari. It's rather an insult, being called 'Unwilling.' ![]()
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And yet Abasi introduced himself as an an Avari... does the poor dear have a self-esteem issue?
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Well...he didn't like introducing himself as Avari, that's just what people knew him by.
![]() ![]() Hmm, I don't think they're Avari so much as just Moriquendi...probably Nandor. But I could be wrong on this. And good about the pestering! Pestering is fun. ![]()
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I think most elves who would use the term Avari probably wouldn't differentiate between those three groups. I usually assume the terms Nandor and Silvan to be describing the same (or very similar) groups and the terms Avari and Moriquendi to be misnomers used by the Noldor to describe them.
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Well, from my understanding, the Avari were the ones who refused to leave with Oromë from Kuiviénen at all, while the Nandor and 'Silvan' elves (which I think are the same thing too) started on the journey, but left the voyage after crossing the mountains. Therefore, the Avari were further sundered, and located quite a bit further East than the Silvan/Nandor.
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That seems about right. But I doubt the elves who completed the journey would bother with the distinction.
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Oh, I doubt it too.
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I'm still unsure as to what ancestry Quickleaf should have, but I'm sort of settling for Avari. Unsure though..
I guess Quickleaf could have roots in either the Wood-Elves in northern Mirkwood, or the Elves of Lorien. He's a kind of 'international' elf though so doesn't really matter ![]()
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