The Official Languages Thread - Page 17

***Jonathan*** · 11-09-2003, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Artanis
Spanish grammar kills me. My impression about the use of 'estar' and 'ser' is that 'ser' is used when talking about fundamental and stable conditions, while 'estar' is used when talking about a state that is likely to change. Does that make sense?

Madrid estÃ¡ en EspaÃ±a. Los noruegos estÃ¡n locos. These are facts that are not likely to change.
La copa es llena. El piso es mojado. El tÃ© es caliente. These are facts that might change.

But I think Falagar got it quite right. You use 'estar' when talking about location and the state of mind or mood of a person.
And you use 'ser' for everything else

That's how I think when I speak Spanish

***Earniel*** · 11-09-2003, 08:32 AM

*moans* Alors, c'est trÃ¨s visible que j'ai oubliÃ© beaucoup de mon cours d'espagnol pendant les trois mois des vacances.

Lalaith · 11-09-2003, 08:53 AM

Shriek ... I'm not the only person not understanding spanish grammar ..... ack.

Jon .... in a few years I'll be able to talk swedish.

But first I'll try to be able to speak fluent SPANISH.

Artanis · 11-09-2003, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jonathan
Madrid estÃ¡ en EspaÃ±a. Los noruegos estÃ¡n locos. These are facts that are not likely to change.
La copa es llena. El piso es mojado. El tÃ© es caliente. These are facts that might change.

But I think Falagar got it quite right. You use 'estar' when talking about location and the state of mind or mood of a person.
And you use 'ser' for everything else
That's how I think when I speak Spanish

All right, I'll take an expert's word for it.

Locos indeed.

No tienes remedio.

Artanis · 11-09-2003, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith
..... ack.

Has hablado demasiado con Ruinel.

Lalaith · 11-09-2003, 09:33 AM

Si, si. Pero no en los semanas pasadas. No he visto Ruinel desde hace un o dos meses.
QuÃ© hace Ruinel?

***Jonathan*** · 11-09-2003, 09:39 AM

Ack, Ruinel estudia pero visita Entmoot frecuentamente.

Quote:

Originally posted by Artanis
Locos indeed. No tienes remedio.

Â¿Remedio? No hay remedio

Lalaith · 11-09-2003, 09:58 AM

Ruinel estudia? Gracias, Jon.

DeberÃ*a que practicar my espanol .....

Ruinel · 11-09-2003, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Too Many People
ACK!!!

Ich drehe meine Rucksitz fur eine Minute. tisk tisk tisk.

Willkommen Lalaith!! Es ist eine seit langem dass ich sehen Sie hier.

Lalaith · 11-09-2003, 01:34 PM

Hallo Ruinel!
Ja, ich war sehr, sehr beschÃ¤ftigt. Aber jetzt bin ich ja wieder da.
Wie geht es dir denn so?

Ruinel · 11-09-2003, 01:50 PM

Ich Klasse besuchen und Arbeiten. (Did I just totally butcher that?) Der Klassen sind fur Computer: programmieren und "networking".

(damn, my book doesn't have some of these words.

)

Lalaith · 11-09-2003, 03:57 PM

Arme Ruinel. Dann hast du wohl nicht mehr viel Freizeit. Oder doch?
FÃ¼r manche WÃ¶rter gibt es keine richtige Deutsche Ãœbersetzung.
Wenn es mit Computern zu tun hat, verwenden wir meistens Englische WÃ¶rter.

Falagar · 11-09-2003, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith
Arme Ruinel. Dann hast du wohl nicht mehr viel Freizeit. Oder doch?
FÃ¼r manche WÃ¶rter gibt es keine richtige Deutsche Ãœbersetzung.
Wenn es mit Computern zu tun hat, verwenden wir meistens Englische WÃ¶rter.

Ja, das tun wir hier in Norwegen auch.

(haven't had German for half a year, hope that was correct

)

hectorberlioz · 11-10-2003, 12:57 AM

no me gusta la persona ruinel (just kidding

)

Ruinel · 11-10-2003, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lalaith
Arme Ruinel. Dann hast du wohl nicht mehr viel Freizeit. Oder doch?
FÃ¼r manche WÃ¶rter gibt es keine richtige Deutsche Ãœbersetzung.
Wenn es mit Computern zu tun hat, verwenden wir meistens Englische WÃ¶rter.

Englische Worter? Ausgezeichnet! Ich weiss die!!

Ruinel · 11-10-2003, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
no me gusta la persona ruinel (just kidding )

Zu haben besser sein scherzen!

hectorberlioz · 11-10-2003, 01:10 AM

puerqita jigante!(sorry, dont have spanish caps, but i do have russian)

Ã°Ã³Ã*Ã½Ã«-ruinel

grrr....didnt work here

Artanis · 11-10-2003, 05:07 AM

Hola hector, no sabÃ*a que hablas espaÃ±ol, Â¿lo estudias en clase?
Gracias Jon, por la signo de interrogaciÃ³n al revÃ©s. Por favor, Â¿desme la signo de admiraciÃ³n tambien?

Bitte, kann jemand den deutchen Buchstaben 'ss' auch hier schreiben? Dann kann ich ihn in meine Signatur stecken.

***Earniel*** · 11-10-2003, 07:16 AM

ÃŸ

Ich glaube dass RÃ*an die auch in ihren Signatur habt.

Artanis · 11-10-2003, 07:28 AM

Ah! La buena RÃ*an! Gracias EÃ¤rniel!

11-09-2003, 08:32 AM	#322
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	moans Alors, c'est trÃ¨s visible que j'ai oubliÃ© beaucoup de mon cours d'espagnol pendant les trois mois des vacances. __________________ We are not things.

11-09-2003, 08:53 AM	#323
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Shriek ... I'm not the only person not understanding spanish grammar ..... ack. Jon .... in a few years I'll be able to talk swedish. But first I'll try to be able to speak fluent SPANISH. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

11-09-2003, 09:33 AM	#326
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Si, si. Pero no en los semanas pasadas. No he visto Ruinel desde hace un o dos meses. QuÃ© hace Ruinel? __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

11-09-2003, 09:58 AM	#328
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Ruinel estudia? Gracias, Jon. DeberÃ*a que practicar my espanol ..... __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

11-09-2003, 01:34 PM	#330
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Hallo Ruinel! Ja, ich war sehr, sehr beschÃ¤ftigt. Aber jetzt bin ich ja wieder da. Wie geht es dir denn so? __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

11-09-2003, 01:50 PM	#331
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Ich Klasse besuchen und Arbeiten. (Did I just totally butcher that?) Der Klassen sind fur Computer: programmieren und "networking". (damn, my book doesn't have some of these words. )

11-09-2003, 03:57 PM	#332
Lalaith The Elvish Temptress Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 3,055	Arme Ruinel. Dann hast du wohl nicht mehr viel Freizeit. Oder doch? FÃ¼r manche WÃ¶rter gibt es keine richtige Deutsche Ãœbersetzung. Wenn es mit Computern zu tun hat, verwenden wir meistens Englische WÃ¶rter. __________________ What I am and what I would are as secret as maidenhead.

11-10-2003, 12:57 AM	#334
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	no me gusta la persona ruinel (just kidding ) __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life! Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

11-10-2003, 01:10 AM	#337
hectorberlioz Master of Orchestration President Emeritus of Entmoot 2004-2008 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost in the Opera House Posts: 9,328	puerqita jigante!(sorry, dont have spanish caps, but i do have russian) Ã°Ã³ÃÃ½Ã«-ruinel grrr....didnt work here __________________ ACALEWIA- President of Entmoot hectorberlioz- Vice President of Entmoot Acaly und Hektor fur Presidants fur EntMut fur life!* Join the discussion at Entmoot Election 2010. "Stupidissimo!"~Toscanini The Da CINDY Code The Epic Poem Of The Balrog of Entmoot: Here ~NEW! ~ Thinking of summer vacation? AboutNewJersey.com - NJ Travel & Tourism Guide

11-10-2003, 05:07 AM	#338
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with FÃ«anor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Hola hector, no sabÃa que hablas espaÃ±ol, Â¿lo estudias en clase? Gracias Jon, por la signo de interrogaciÃ³n al revÃ©s. Por favor, Â¿desme la signo de admiraciÃ³n tambien? Bitte, kann jemand den deutchen Buchstaben 'ss' auch hier schreiben? Dann kann ich ihn in meine Signatur stecken. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.*

11-10-2003, 07:16 AM	#339
*Earniel* The Chocoholic Sea Elf Administrator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: N?n in Eilph (Belgium) Posts: 14,363	ÃŸ Ich glaube dass RÃ*an die auch in ihren Signatur habt. __________________ We are not things.

11-10-2003, 07:28 AM	#340
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with FÃ«anor's 7 Posts: 4,285	Ah! La buena RÃan! Gracias EÃ¤rniel! __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.*

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