*Appendix Trivia - II* - Page 17

Gordis · 04-28-2006, 03:14 AM

Pelendur?

***Valandil*** · 04-28-2006, 07:07 AM

No - not Pelendur.

Gordis · 04-28-2006, 08:58 AM

Then it was The Council of Gondor, led by Pelendur

***Valandil*** · 04-28-2006, 09:04 AM

Correct - your turn

Gordis · 04-28-2006, 02:47 PM

'jolly, gay' - in Westron please!

Udukhaturz · 04-28-2006, 03:26 PM

Kalimac?

Gordis · 04-28-2006, 03:51 PM

Yes. Your turn!

Udukhaturz · 04-28-2006, 06:48 PM

What is the Elvish name of Azanulbizar?

Gordis · 04-29-2006, 05:08 PM

Nanduhirion

Udukhaturz · 04-29-2006, 07:04 PM

Gordis, correct. The next question is yours.

Gordis · 04-29-2006, 07:11 PM

What do "hyarmen and formen" literally mean and why?

Udukhaturz · 05-01-2006, 04:54 PM

"Hyarmen" and "formen" are the names of Quenya Tengwar letters "hy" and "f" and are used on maps for "south" and "north."

Gordis · 05-01-2006, 05:28 PM

Hyarmen and formen mean Soputh and North indeed, but I don't think that they are names of Quenya Tengwar letters

.

I advise you to search a little further, Udu!

Great new title, the Shadow Lord of Morgul! *bows*

Udukhaturz · 05-01-2006, 06:56 PM

Gordis, for the answer I was going on this quote from page 401:

"The names of the letters most widely known and used were 17 n, 33 hy, 25 r, 9 f: númen, hyarmen, rómen, formen = west, south, east, north (cf. Sindarin Dûn or annûn, harad, rhûn or amrûn, forod). These letters commonly indicated the points W, S, E, N even in languages that used quite different terms. They were, in the West-lands, named in this order, beginning with and facing west: hyarmen and formen indeed meant left-hand region and right-hand region (the opposite to the arragement in many Mannish languages)."

Gordis · 05-02-2006, 05:15 AM

I know, Udu.

Actually I was looking for this quote several pages further:

Quote:

These letters commonly indicated the points W, S, E, N even in languages that used quite different terms. They were, in the Westlands, named in this order, beginning with and facing west; hyarmen and formen indeed meant left-hand region and right-hand region (the opposite to the arrangement in many Mannish languages).

Anyway, you ask the next question, Udu. One quote is as good as another

Udukhaturz · 05-02-2006, 07:09 PM

*Chuckles good naturedly* I would have to go for the complicated answer. *Grins*

I have an easy, fun question. Where in the Appendixes is the word "outhouse" used?

Gordis · 05-03-2006, 12:56 PM

Appendix E
"In Dwarvish, which did not possess the sounds represented above by th and ch(kh), th and kh are aspirates, that is t or k followed by an h, more or less as in backhand, outhouse."

Udukhaturz · 05-03-2006, 08:37 PM

Gordis, you are correct. Ask the next question.

Gordis · 05-04-2006, 05:26 PM

Whose was the mound in which the Ring-bearer was imprisoned?

Udukhaturz · 05-04-2006, 06:50 PM

Probably the last prince of Cardolan

04-28-2006, 07:07 AM	#322
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04-28-2006, 09:04 AM	#324
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04-28-2006, 03:14 AM	#321
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Pelendur?

04-28-2006, 08:58 AM	#323
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Then it was The Council of Gondor, led by Pelendur

04-28-2006, 02:47 PM	#325
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	'jolly, gay' - in Westron please!

04-28-2006, 03:26 PM	#326
Udukhaturz Shadow Lord of Morgul Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 547	Kalimac?

04-28-2006, 03:51 PM	#327
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Yes. Your turn!

04-28-2006, 06:48 PM	#328
Udukhaturz Shadow Lord of Morgul Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 547	What is the Elvish name of Azanulbizar?

04-29-2006, 05:08 PM	#329
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Nanduhirion

04-29-2006, 07:04 PM	#330
Udukhaturz Shadow Lord of Morgul Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 547	Gordis, correct. The next question is yours.

04-29-2006, 07:11 PM	#331
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	What do "hyarmen and formen" literally mean and why?

05-01-2006, 04:54 PM	#332
Udukhaturz Shadow Lord of Morgul Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 547	"Hyarmen" and "formen" are the names of Quenya Tengwar letters "hy" and "f" and are used on maps for "south" and "north."

05-01-2006, 05:28 PM	#333
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Hyarmen and formen mean Soputh and North indeed, but I don't think that they are names of Quenya Tengwar letters . I advise you to search a little further, Udu! Great new title, the Shadow Lord of Morgul! bows

05-01-2006, 06:56 PM	#334
Udukhaturz Shadow Lord of Morgul Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 547	Gordis, for the answer I was going on this quote from page 401: "The names of the letters most widely known and used were 17 n, 33 hy, 25 r, 9 f: númen, hyarmen, rómen, formen = west, south, east, north (cf. Sindarin Dûn or annûn, harad, rhûn or amrûn, forod). These letters commonly indicated the points W, S, E, N even in languages that used quite different terms. They were, in the West-lands, named in this order, beginning with and facing west: hyarmen and formen indeed meant left-hand region and right-hand region (the opposite to the arragement in many Mannish languages)."

05-02-2006, 07:09 PM	#336
Udukhaturz Shadow Lord of Morgul Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 547	Chuckles good naturedly I would have to go for the complicated answer. Grins I have an easy, fun question. Where in the Appendixes is the word "outhouse" used?

05-03-2006, 12:56 PM	#337
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Appendix E "In Dwarvish, which did not possess the sounds represented above by th and ch(kh), th and kh are aspirates, that is t or k followed by an h, more or less as in backhand, outhouse."

05-03-2006, 08:37 PM	#338
Udukhaturz Shadow Lord of Morgul Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 547	Gordis, you are correct. Ask the next question.

05-04-2006, 05:26 PM	#339
Gordis Lady of the Ulairi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 2,783	Whose was the mound in which the Ring-bearer was imprisoned?

05-04-2006, 06:50 PM	#340
Udukhaturz Shadow Lord of Morgul Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 547	Probably the last prince of Cardolan