Academy Awards Thread - Page 17

Pailan · 03-26-2002, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RosieCotton
Too bad they lost Best Picture. Wouldn't it have been great if they won three years in a row?

I didn't think best picture was a reality this year. And it will be the same next year. I have heard the complaint that because FotR didn't end on an up note, or a more completed ending that there was now way for it to win the oscar for best picture. I predict that PJ won't get his until RotK.

Earenya · 03-26-2002, 09:49 PM

That is so insane... its as though they dont even try to deny that it seems like the awards are not merit of 'the best' of that particular year.....

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 10:06 PM

Did you guys see the other movies? or are you just basing your choice on the fact that you liked the books and liked the movie? (I still think that most LOTR fans only like the movie because of the books).

olsonm · 03-26-2002, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jerseydevil
Did you guys see the other movies? or are you just basing your choice on the fact that you liked the books and liked the movie? (I still think that most LOTR fans only like the movie because of the books).

And I still think that jerseydevil only disliked the movie because of the books.

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 10:42 PM

No actually I liked the movie - I just didn't think it was the greatest. Yes compared to the books I thought it was pretty bad. But as a movie - I'd get the DVD - but there would have been no way I would have seen it so many times in the theater if it didn't have The Lord of the Rings in it's title.

olsonm · 03-26-2002, 11:06 PM

Ah, so when you say "most fans" you really mean jerseydevil.

It seems to me that most of the readers on this site really honestly loved the movie, even with all the changes. It's also seems to me that it would be difficult to prove that they wouldn't have liked it if they hadn't read the book.
I think the scope of the making of the film would have brought it plenty of notoriety and it was quite popular with non-readers, so it's possible that many people would have loved it even had they not read the books.
I do believe, however, that the movie would never have been made were it not for the books.

Starr Polish · 03-26-2002, 11:08 PM

I hadn't read the books before I saw it (in fact, after being unable to finish the Hobbit, I swore I would never read anything Tolkien again, and that he was that great of a writer...but don't hurt me, I was unaware of how good LOTR really was) and I absolutely LOVED the movie.

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 11:18 PM

Well most people I know that hadn't read the books just think it was an okay movie. One of my friends said compared it to Fast and Furious. My cousins refuse to see it. My youngest cousin who is 12 - said that no one he knows liked the movie (which I don't really believe) but that's what he claims.

Starr Polish · 03-26-2002, 11:24 PM

I know I should, but I don't tend to take most 12 year olds opinions on certain things seriously.

Well, basically, anyone who says 'Space Jam' is a good movie, I don't really take their opinion on movies seriously.

olsonm · 03-26-2002, 11:24 PM

Well, your friends haven't exactly impressed me with their cognitive abilities.

However, it still remains that many people did love the movie, and many people didn't. But that's true with all movies.

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 11:32 PM

Well my 12 year old cousin has been working on B985's morining show, which is the major radio station on the Jersey Shore, for the past year . He's not exactly your average 12 year old.

Starr Polish · 03-26-2002, 11:33 PM

Ah...a 12 year old worthy of listening to, I'm sure

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 11:41 PM

Well I don't agree with him on everything - including his feelings about Lord of the Rings. But he is a 12 year old that you can talk to about politics and other "adult" conversations with. He reads the paper, watches CNN, watches the news, e-mails to Talk Back Live and gets it read on air. He's very smart. But like I said - I also don't agree with his feelings on LOTR - I just don't think it's the greatest movie this year or definitely not the greatest movie ever as so many people think. But it's all a matter of opinion and taste.

This is my 499th post,

olsonm · 03-26-2002, 11:43 PM

Elf Lord one post away!! I'm envious.

RosieCotton · 03-27-2002, 10:37 AM

What an interesting thread.
A 12 year old radio talk show host and
A person who compares LOTR to The Fast and the Furious
*shakes head sadley* (at the second one)

Rosie

galadriel88 · 03-28-2002, 10:25 PM

Heh...I like this pic.

[URL=http://www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/3741ring.net/movie/scrapbook/large/3741oscars pic[/URL]

galadriel88 · 03-28-2002, 10:26 PM

Aaaaah! Let's try this again...

www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/3741

Now, see if this works...

galadriel88 · 03-28-2002, 10:27 PM

Yay!

Eruviel Greenleaf · 03-28-2002, 10:28 PM

It's great, I love it!

Thanks for posting it, Galadriel88!

galadriel88 · 03-28-2002, 10:37 PM

You're welcome.

It is exactly my opinion in the whole matter.

03-26-2002, 09:49 PM	#322
Earenya Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pinnath Gelin, formerly in Angaron... Posts: 228	That is so insane... its as though they dont even try to deny that it seems like the awards are not merit of 'the best' of that particular year..... __________________ O mor henion i dhu Ely siriar, el sila Ai! Aniron.... Tiro! El eria e mor I 'lir en el luitha 'uren Ai! Aniron... FRODO LIVES!

03-26-2002, 10:06 PM	#323
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Did you guys see the other movies? or are you just basing your choice on the fact that you liked the books and liked the movie? (I still think that most LOTR fans only like the movie because of the books). __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-26-2002, 10:42 PM	#325
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	No actually I liked the movie - I just didn't think it was the greatest. Yes compared to the books I thought it was pretty bad. But as a movie - I'd get the DVD - but there would have been no way I would have seen it so many times in the theater if it didn't have The Lord of the Rings in it's title. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-26-2002, 11:06 PM	#326
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	Ah, so when you say "most fans" you really mean jerseydevil. It seems to me that most of the readers on this site really honestly loved the movie, even with all the changes. It's also seems to me that it would be difficult to prove that they wouldn't have liked it if they hadn't read the book. I think the scope of the making of the film would have brought it plenty of notoriety and it was quite popular with non-readers, so it's possible that many people would have loved it even had they not read the books. I do believe, however, that the movie would never have been made were it not for the books. __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!! Last edited by olsonm : 03-26-2002 at 11:11 PM.

03-26-2002, 11:08 PM	#327
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I hadn't read the books before I saw it (in fact, after being unable to finish the Hobbit, I swore I would never read anything Tolkien again, and that he was that great of a writer...but don't hurt me, I was unaware of how good LOTR really was) and I absolutely LOVED the movie. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-26-2002, 11:18 PM	#328
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Well most people I know that hadn't read the books just think it was an okay movie. One of my friends said compared it to Fast and Furious. My cousins refuse to see it. My youngest cousin who is 12 - said that no one he knows liked the movie (which I don't really believe) but that's what he claims. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-26-2002, 11:24 PM	#329
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	I know I should, but I don't tend to take most 12 year olds opinions on certain things seriously. Well, basically, anyone who says 'Space Jam' is a good movie, I don't really take their opinion on movies seriously. __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-26-2002, 11:24 PM	#330
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	Well, your friends haven't exactly impressed me with their cognitive abilities. However, it still remains that many people did love the movie, and many people didn't. But that's true with all movies. __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

03-26-2002, 11:32 PM	#331
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Well my 12 year old cousin has been working on B985's morining show, which is the major radio station on the Jersey Shore, for the past year . He's not exactly your average 12 year old. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-26-2002, 11:33 PM	#332
Starr Polish Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Slow down and I sail on the river, slow down and I walk to the hill Posts: 2,389	Ah...a 12 year old worthy of listening to, I'm sure __________________ “The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.” –Bertrand Russell

03-26-2002, 11:41 PM	#333
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Well I don't agree with him on everything - including his feelings about Lord of the Rings. But he is a 12 year old that you can talk to about politics and other "adult" conversations with. He reads the paper, watches CNN, watches the news, e-mails to Talk Back Live and gets it read on air. He's very smart. But like I said - I also don't agree with his feelings on LOTR - I just don't think it's the greatest movie this year or definitely not the greatest movie ever as so many people think. But it's all a matter of opinion and taste. This is my 499th post, __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-26-2002, 11:43 PM	#334
olsonm Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: minneapolis MN Posts: 920	Elf Lord one post away!! I'm envious. __________________ Gandalf lives...oh and Frodo too. Haldir Lives!!!

03-27-2002, 10:37 AM	#335
RosieCotton Elven Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Hobbiton...no wait.... Posts: 263	What an interesting thread. A 12 year old radio talk show host and A person who compares LOTR to The Fast and the Furious shakes head sadley (at the second one) Rosie __________________ Fortune rides like the Sun on high With the fox that makes the ravens fly Luck his sould, the lightning his eye He snatches the moons from out of the sky.

03-28-2002, 10:25 PM	#336
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	Heh...I like this pic. [URL=http://www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/3741ring.net/movie/scrapbook/large/3741oscars pic[/URL] __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

03-28-2002, 10:26 PM	#337
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	Aaaaah! Let's try this again... www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/3741 Now, see if this works... __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

03-28-2002, 10:27 PM	#338
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	Yay! __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

03-28-2002, 10:28 PM	#339
Eruviel Greenleaf Alcoholic Villain-Fancying Elf Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lyonesse Posts: 4,547	It's great, I love it! Thanks for posting it, Galadriel88! __________________ Eruviel Greenleaf in a past life. "Whoever has come to understand the world has found only a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world." -The Gospel of Thomas SQUAWK!

03-28-2002, 10:37 PM	#340
galadriel88 Halfwitted Queen of Lothlorien Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Far off in a dream Posts: 1,166	You're welcome. It is exactly my opinion in the whole matter. __________________ The beuatiful mind/The beautiful heart/Doesn't deserve the pain/How can I stop the rain? -How Can I Stop the Rain? by Kessid, my new favorite band +Every good thing that comes into my life is only a reflection of the greatest gift of all; the offering of yourself, dear Son of God+ Always remember, you're uniqe, just like everybody else! "The one constant through all the years has been the Trombone. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. Its been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again, but the Trombone has marked the time. This field, this section, this band is a part of our past. It reminds us of all that once was good, and could be again. Oh, people will come . . . people will most definitely come."

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