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Great! That way it would possible to have people like Hitler.
Or did god fail us? Couldn't we have been created with the free will to chose god and everything else but without the violent urges? Did Jesus die for the sins of the non-christiuon victims of the concentration camps or did they depart hell on earth to hell (in someplace)? I know there is a theological response to this but I don't remember it.
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There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary |
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In terms of having heard about something and not believing - a lot of people have heard about reincarnation (which a lot of religions believe in) yet not everyone believes in that. This discussion seems to be concentrating more around the Judeo/Christian religions as if they are the only ones out there. Do you believe that a cow is the holding place for the soul until the next life (not sure if I got that fact right)? Millions of people believe that.
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* Is our spine so poorly designed? (Sore neck/back anyone?) * Why are our feet so susceptible to collapsed arches? * Why is our brain case so weak? Especially in the temporal region? * Why are our hips so weak? * Why is our ribcage so small (ie squashes lungs) * Why the hell did he give us a chin? What purpose is that? No other animal has a chin. And before you site the garden of eden sin, remember this, God is supposed to have created us in his own image (which is far from perfect, if you ask me!), and we have supposedly stayed in that image from the time of creation. Since our bodies aren't perfect, then he must have made us imperfectly. What does this mean? God is an imperfect being? That downgrades him somewhat. Now, all of the above can be explained by natural selection, and evolutionary processes. Natural selection, and the other mechanisms act on the organism, and the organism adapts to the best possible fitness, not the PERFECT one. That is why there have been extinctions. because an organism has selected poorly. And since we are imperfect in our skeletal makeup anyway, (anyone else want to tackly the other functions?), this fits more with an evolutionary process, which, by the way, can explain the chin, than one of a perfect divine creation, in which our image has remained unchanged.
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Well we are imperfect. Take wisdom teeth or the appendix or tonsils - none of these serve any purpose anymore. Did "god" just have some extra parts lying around that he shoved in us??? Science points to an explanation - at least for the wisdom teeth and appendix - they were used when we were vegetarians. But as man started eating meat - our whole digestive track changed. I don't know if they have any ide why we have tonsils.
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To Khadrane: How can I go to a place that doesn't exist?
To emplynx: To be perfect is to be without flaw. God did not make us perfect because we are flawed. Otherwise, there would be order and not chaos, there would be love and not hate, there would be peace and not war, etc. This is your image of perfect? That's pretty sad. I think if there was a god, he would have created us just to have fun with. He's basically a comedian. Just look at what he has made. Apparently he "made" me for a reason, just like everyone else, and if your entire life is mapped out ahead of time, how the hello does free will exist? Because if I have free will I could choose to steer clear of his "plan" for me, but I can't. Your "free will" is an illusion. Either we're here for a big important reason/plan/fate, or there's free will and god does not control our destiny and we are just here for his entertainment. Last edited by Rána Eressëa : 03-27-2002 at 05:44 PM. |
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jerseydevil
Tonsils perform an important function in immunity. As for wisdom teeth, I don't know what happened to yours, but I still have mine (I'm 22). Just because science hasn't found a function for something doesn't mean one doesn't exist.
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in radio-dating was the difference between
precision and accurarcy?
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Adam and Eve while in the garden of Eden were perfect. Once they had to leve the garden and when sin came into the world, that is when they became imperfect. To sum it up, we were created to be perfect, but it is no longer so because we chose to sin.
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the human eye;
the photorecptors are backward reducing visual acuity there is a hole where fibers enter the eye = blindspot squids don't have this problem buy vert's do swallow and chew through the same whole = choking
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as can be seen above we could have been BETTER designed
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