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In ME, I don't think we even see evidence of anything like universities, etc. - so I was just taking it step further to introduce someone 'working their way through'. OK - looks like I missed a little craziness and tension - and when I hopped on last night, it was only for a few moments, because the kids were demanding my attention almost as much as you guys. I have to leave real soon now too. But I hope we've all started to iron things out. CS - can you accept things with the retractions that Lief has made? Lief - I missed your edited posts - but for now, things are still going peacefully at Tharbad - and I think a Nazgul call - even if it was weak, and outside the city, and in a language nobody but Nazgul understood - would set the whole town on edge. And there are probably plenty of 'war veterans' around who WOULD recognize it for what it was. For now, Nazgul and the rest of us are interacting - and the rest of us don't have a clue. After something like that, we Men and Elves would start looking for anything suspicious (right now... they have us where they want us ). (EDIT: and if he IS a Balrog - the one in Moria is due to sleep undisturbed for another 1931 years - and has no clue about the Ring or Ringwraiths) Oh - and no, I don't think any orcs would venture into the world of Men or Elves or Dwarves in ME... they'd be shot on sight. Rian - I think you got much of the summary right. Gordis is also due to bring in another Nazgul soon. Funny... I had been hoping the non-Nazguls would outnumber the Nazguls (like about 2 to 1 - or even 3 to 2) - but we're really getting swamped by Nazguls - and have a potential Balrog or Blarog or Barlog at the gates! *joins in the tickling of CS* (EDIT: WHoops... TICKLING it is! )
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Oh yeah - and "Last Sane Person" - the game of 'Dunedain Football' is sort of a cross between 'Capture the Flag' and Rugby... 'no holds barred' - as BB says.
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Re: your post #268 Normally when a new player enters the game, he has to ask permission to introduce the new character, and be careful with other people's (who were here before you!) ideas. Look at it this way. Several artists are working on a big mosaic representing, say, the Siege of Barad Dur. Everyone starts at his/her corner and puts together an intricate pattern keeping their utmost attention to detail. The centre of the picture is still empty, but all the workers have already a rather detailed picture of the whole in their minds, the whole thing was already discussed and agreed upon. Then a stranger comes, and seeing the empty space in the centre, makes a picture of a sexy blonde in a bikini. When the startled artists complain, he explains haughtily, that they were working on disjointed pieces and now they sort of have the central theme and the right direction and he is the one who knows what the picture should look, when finished. And he points out that he never touched any of the corners other people were working at. To show his goodwill he even agrees to dress the blonde a little. I propose to Valandil, who has the divine right to split threads, take away your posts starting with #44 into a new RPG. Then you can have your plot and direct it as you like. I side with CS and Lotesse. |
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heh Valandil!
well the "gutter" press ia at this very momment about to (try) and talk to some (normally) chatty beauties and your unoffcial "minders" ... to all: BTW i don't see the press being that gutter: this IS middle earth! Val: could you post a link to the "game" in either letters of F or tales of V: or copy a brief description over? ...well the non nazgul characters grow too! Quote:
AHHH! tickling wes it? *tickles CS too* : mmm i thought i saw her smile for a momment there: and such a great smile too! really hopes CS will be cool: for one thing half the players will have to leave, including me if she forces the issue! you know how militant the brotherhood of butterflies are! best all |
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In fact, I wondered if she might make rapid sketches... to take the place of photographs. I even thought about having her sketch Valandil conversing with Annawen at The Red Herring, but thought the garden area would be a little screened off - and she was clearly on the first floor, not third. (so I saved myself the trouble) Yes - I believe the noble game of Rochdol is described in Firiel's Letter #4 - at the point where Arvedui and Firiel arrive in their new home of Fornost - though it is a girls' point of view. I'll post something to it later if nobody else has - gotta go now.
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And as usual blow-ups occur when I'm asleep...
I must say I am rather disappointed by your reactions. I was hoping we all would be mature enough to solve differences in opinion over plots peacefully without having to take sides or having to retort to comments like "now you've completely ruined it" and "I'm leaving if I do not get my way". Characters belong to individuals but the game belongs to everybody playing it. If you're unhappy with the way Lief entered this game, say so without getting too defensive. It's too dumb to be leaving over something like this. We've barely started! Surely there will be more differences of opinion along the way. I don't see while we get to introduce new elements and Lief who joined later, on our own invitation, may not. True, some warning would have been nice. True, his new elements are a little too intrusive in the already existing plot-threads but there's in my opinion no need to respond so harshly. Now I for one, am interested in the plots Lief comes up with because I have played with him in the past and am used to having to find things out in the game without being told in advance. Frodo didn't know what was going to happen when he agreed to take the Ring to Mordor either. So far I have not once been disappointed and I quite enjoy that form of playing too. But that sort of RPG-ing usually takes a strong game master, such as Lief is used to playing. Since I monitor all games in this forum I am well aware that that is not the way most of you have been playing or prefer to play. And maybe that is indeed not the best way to play this particular game. Still, I think it's commendable that Lief wants to try and pull all plots together since we were saying in this discussion thread earlier that our current plot could still use some more developping. But I think that maybe keeping the main plot 'public' is better for this particular game. Although I do think a little mystery here and there can only make this game more interesting. Now this is a game we're all playing together and since we bugged Lief until he joined, I suggest we look together over what he has introduced so far and what of those elements we can keep. I don't think we can ask that he deletes everything. That would require RÃ*an to edit her posts too. It's a game of give and take. So please, do not assume too rigid stances here and please be prepared to work to a compromise. Now personally I think the figure in the coach, with some modifications, can be kept. I do not think there should be another Nazgul. The Nine are pretty much established, even in another game, so I don't think the addition to a completely new nazgul is opportune. (Except for the Witch-King, since he has yet to enter the game, right? Who was playing him again?) However, we still haven't figured out what called all 9 nazguls seperately to Tharbad. It doesn't need to be a nazgul but it might very well be Lief's figure in the coach. Perhaps a thrid party that wishes to use the Nazgul's abilities to track down the one Ring and then take it for his own? So can we please iron these plot-difficulties out together or not?
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Please, I would very much appreciate people bringing objections with my posts up to me and I'll explain and modify as they wish. I'm glad about those objections I've heard, because I certainly hate misunderstandings. Those I have heard, I can help to explain.
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09-10-2005, 12:04 PM | #309 |
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Earniel, have you READ yesterday's posts? Do you KNOW what it was like? All of us, who were online, nearly got mad. PM's have flown in flocks.
Read the posts. We tried to be nice, we REALLY did. Then we decided it was too much for us. I became the spokesman, that's all. To Lief Erikson: Ahhh, so the bloated thing was not a nazgul. Be careful then, when you refer to "other nazgul", if you are NOT one of us. About your character. Do you REALIZE, that the only responce the bloated thing will get from the ringwraiths in the present situation is an ugly end? We can come and kill you if you so wish. We can ignore you completely. But then Val's soldiers will shoot you and your orc and your mutant horses on sighting. Your character is short-lived anyway. Do you not see it? Why won't you READ the thread at last and pick someone decent? Val's adviser, Earniel's sweetheart, a Governor of Tharbad, a city whore, a mad elf, a street cat, you name it? I hate quarrels. I really do. And I don't want to quit. But I will, if yesterday's situation ever repeats itself. We don't need a gamemaster here. I am used to be my own mistress, thank you. Especially we do not need a "gamemaster" who bangs in, asks in a hurry "what is the time and place?" and then "pulls our threads together". The Nazgul are well established and taken care of. Soon we will be reunited, believe me. Three have met already, soon there will be more. All goes along the plan. We have agreed on it between ourselves, and gave enough hints to the "other side". Anyone who bothers to read the Discussion thread will know it. AND reading BOTH threads before joining is a simple courtesy to the other players, IMHO. Do you agree with me? |
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I've read the entire discussion thread and the entire rpg thread now, but this one seems a little more complex because apparently it's a re-start of one that existed before.
Anyway, I liked everything about the mysterious character in the coach, except the orc driver - maybe you can make it a little toned-down, Lief, kind of like the Bill Ferny character or the squint-eyed Southerner in LOTR - characters that obviously have orc-blood in them?
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Eärniel, be sure to read my post #54!
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Yes CS, I have READ yesterday's posts. Yes, I noticed you all got mad, but I don't think it was necesary. I really do not see why you should have gotten so upset, I honestly DON'T. So no, I probably don't know what it's like.
Lief has admitted he should have read the threads before and clearly indicated that he would pull out if anyone would be leaving over his posts. He offered to fix the situation. He has been friendly about it. Frankly, what more do you want? You can at least show him the same curtesy. I know you don't want any one else to infiltrate in your 'inner nazgul circle' but you can't expect Lief to have known that. You don't want any more nazgul or anything remotely resembling one, FINE, that TELL us. None of us are mind-readers, misunderstanding is bound to happen. Just say so and we look how we can change the situation accordingly. I never said we needed a gamemaster! Not in this game. Nor did Lief said he would be. He just wanted to help. If it's not appreciated tell so NICELY, no need to bite his nose off over it. There are different ways of playing RPG's, Lief's just used to another way. But he said he will adapt. Now Lief has admitted he made mistakes and is offering to find a way to make amends. So I think we can call off the blame-game. So can we all help to solve this problem constructively or is that too much to ask?
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How about this - all of us who are on board and actively working a new character, put some kind of explanatory biography profile here so we can all very plainly see who's who and what's what?
A Biography Profile Viniglaen, Nazgul Ringwraith #9 Born and raised in Andulie, Numenor, of unknown lineage & family. The youngest of the Nine, became a wraith after stealing a ring from a young Numenorian king's safe and then using the ring herself. Physically: About 5'3", she is by far the tiniest in stature of all the ringwraiths, but what she lacks in height she makes up for in depth of character and passionate intensity. Petite, tomboyish, unusually beautiful yet surprisingly strong, she sports short, sexily tousled hair the rich dark colour of walnut wood, and fiercely brilliant large eyes the colour of a twilight sky peek out from under her wavy, silky bangs. Very white skin; small pink bow-shaped lips. Emotionally, Intellectually: Moody as all get out, possessing a temper that can match even the Witch King's himself - she is prone to unexpected violent mood swings (rather like someone I know ), but she is highly loyal and enjoys defending the weak from the strong,. In that vein, as much as she steals, she gives away - to her friends and Nazgul "family," with the exception of course being the Ruling Ring and/or a Silmaril, both of which she has high hopes of someday finding. Skills: Master Thief and Catburglar of all Middle-Earth, her thievery skills are absolutely legendary and unsurpassed, yet her true identity is rarely revealed in the event of an historical heist ever happening. There's a connexion between what she does and the stuff that was in the Barrow Downs, for instance. Viniglaen is impossible to deceive - she's "up on game," I guess you could say. She's extremely gifted , but unfortunately missed out on a classic Numenorian high education, as she was barely 22 years old at the time she became a Nazgul. She has put the ages of time to good use, however, educating herself the best she could by reading a lot and paying close attention to her learned fellow Nazgul. Motivation: To find the Ruling Ring, and to find a Silmaril. What she intends to do with the Ruling Ring should she ever find it, remains to be told.
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How about this - all of us who are on board and actively working a new character, put some kind of explanatory biography profile here so we can all very plainly see who's who and what's what?
A Biography Profile Viniglaen, Nazgul Ringwraith #9 Born and raised in Andulie, Numenor, of unknown lineage & family. The youngest of the Nine, became a wraith after stealing a ring from a young Numenorian king's safe and then using the ring herself. Physically: About 5'3", she is by far the tiniest in stature of all the ringwraiths, but what she lacks in height she makes up for in depth of character and passionate intensity. Petite, tomboyish, unusually beautiful yet surprisingly strong, she sports short, sexily tousled hair the rich dark colour of walnut wood, and fiercely brilliant large eyes the colour of a twilight sky peek out from under her wavy, silky bangs. Very white skin; small pink bow-shaped lips. Emotionally, Intellectually: Moody as all get out, possessing a temper that can match even the Witch King's himself - she is prone to unexpected violent mood swings (rather like someone I know ), but she is highly loyal and enjoys defending the weak from the strong,. In that vein, as much as she steals, she gives away - to her friends and Nazgul "family," with the exception of course being the Ruling Ring and/or a Silmaril, both of which she has high hopes of someday finding. Skills: Master Thief and Catburglar of all Middle-Earth, her thievery skills are absolutely legendary and unsurpassed, yet her true identity is rarely revealed in the event of an historical heist ever happening. There's a connexion between what she does and the stuff that was in the Barrow Downs, for instance. Viniglaen is impossible to deceive - she's "up on game," I guess you could say. She's extremely gifted , but unfortunately missed out on a classic Numenorian high education, as she was barely 22 years old at the time she became a Nazgul. She has put the ages of time to good use, however, educating herself the best she could by reading a lot and paying close attention to her learned fellow Nazgul. Motivation: To find the Ruling Ring, and to find a Silmaril. What she intends to do with the Ruling Ring should she ever find it, remains to be told.
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Ok, Lief, I have read your message. Well, let us hope it was a misunderstanding. If so, I apologize.
Let us see what happens next. Lotesse, thanks for the Bio, but there has never been any problem with Vivvie. Thank you and Gordis for support! What do you feel now? Should we resume posting? |
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O.K.! I have some new ideas for Viv and those two Marty&Ray; they seem fun to her - an interesting diversion for her, and I think she'd like to "befriend" them, see what makes them tick...
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To VIV.
Sure, I look forward to it. But first let's get rid of the Widow. I am not eager to give an interview. Are you? Should we throw her out bodily or attempt somthing more sophisticated, like poisoning? I feel drained right now, please, post. And Viv, you should explain your presence in Lil's house somehow, to Ray and Marty. Are you a friend of Lil? or a sweetheart of Five? or Lil's and Five's dunadan cousin- daughter of their late father's brother? (I mean cover story, not the real one) Where is our Doc, GW? Could you take Five over, perhaps? and TD? TD, I believe, Khamul may appear in Lilly's "haunted house in Orrodel" in the late morning. That will be a surprise for Lilly and Five to learn they have an older brother, Professor of oriental languages! |
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