A prediciton game - Page 16

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-13-2004, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fimbrethil

Sweety I havn't posted yet and apologized. Be pateint(sp?) it won't kill you to wait one more post.

Sorry for seeming impatient it's just that it's dragging on and taking over the thread.

thranduil · 09-15-2004, 04:04 PM

dumbledore will be teaching harry occlumency for now on. that would be cool if harry broke into dumbledores thoughts (i know highly unlikely) and discovered some of his past which gave some clues for the next book. Also dumbledores brother is most likely the bartender at hogs head and plays a more significant role in this book.

sirigorn · 09-15-2004, 07:20 PM

Thrandiul, it has been confirmed that Aberforth Dumbledore is the bartender. This is what JKR said when asked the following question:

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Why is the barman of the Hog’s Head vaguely familiar to Harry? Is he Dumbledore’s brother?

Ooh—you are getting good. Why do you think that it is Aberforth? [Audience member: Various clues. He smells of goats and he looks a bit like Dumbledore]. I was quite proud of that clue. That is all that I am going to say. [Laughter]. Well yes, obviously. I like the goat clue—I sniggered to myself about that one.

So yeah. Why do you think that Dumbledore will be teacher Harry occulmency? We don't know that, it's not canon.

~Siri~

thranduil · 09-16-2004, 04:21 AM

I am pretty sure that dumbledore admits his bad judgement in trusting snape with this responsibility and says he should have tought him himself. I think I remember that right. And do you think dumbledore would actually risk letting someone else teach him after what happened with snape, which causes sirius death.

Lizra · 09-16-2004, 07:44 AM

Hmmm...good point!

sirigorn · 09-16-2004, 07:18 PM

See...that's pretty much exactly why I thought it should be Dumbledore!

~Siri~

Radagast The Brown · 09-16-2004, 07:25 PM

I think that's what I suggested in our last argument.

Again, isn't Dumbledore afraid, though, that Voldemort would know his relationships with Harry? Or do you think Voldemort already found out? Somehow?

thranduil · 09-16-2004, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Radagast The Brown

I think that's what I suggested in our last argument.

Again, isn't Dumbledore afraid, though, that Voldemort would know his relationships with Harry? Or do you think Voldemort already found out? Somehow?

Yes voldemort knows there is more than headmaster student relationship between them. Especially when dumbledore comes out of hiding to protect harry when voldemort shows up. But it is safe to say voldie assumed this kind of relationship anyways given harrys background with voldie. And now that harry realizes the seriousness of learning occlumency immediately he will be more keen to practice it. And dumbledore will have to step up to the plate teach him as soon as possible.

Lizra · 09-17-2004, 07:59 AM

Do you think Dumbledore's "affection" or special relationship with Harry is only because of the prophecy? (of course!

)If Harry was just another very good student, Dumbledore probably wouldn't notice him much.....Thoughts like that must cross Harry's mind when he's feeling sorry for himself, or in a black mood...depressing.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-17-2004, 11:46 AM

Voldemort could make Harry see things not the other way roulnd so Dumbledore teaching Harry should be okay.

thranduil · 09-18-2004, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

Voldemort could make Harry see things not the other way roulnd so Dumbledore teaching Harry should be okay.

well than why was dumbledore avoiding and not making eye contact with harry, his entire fifth year?

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-18-2004, 02:12 AM

I don't think he was sure. He hadn't seen Harry much siince Voldemort returned and didn't want to take the risk of Voldemort seeing things Harry did.

thranduil · 09-18-2004, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Telcontar_Dunedain

I don't think he was sure. He hadn't seen Harry much siince Voldemort returned and didn't want to take the risk of Voldemort seeing things Harry did.

it was only four weeks and he was being trailed. but i agree he wasnt sure and was taking precautions

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-18-2004, 02:33 AM

But Dumbledore didn't actually look at Harry until Christmas.

thranduil · 09-18-2004, 03:31 AM

yeah but that was intentional. It wasnt like he hadnt been able to keep an eye on him.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-18-2004, 03:32 AM

Yeah but at the Disciplinry Hearing he had a choice to speak to Harry but just rushed off.

thranduil · 09-18-2004, 03:36 AM

he didn't speak to him because he was taking precautions. not that he just didnt feel like talking to him. Like when they look at each other at the portkey and harry feels like attacking dumbledore, he was trying to make sure nothing like that would happen.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-18-2004, 03:40 AM

But will Harry be getting that feeling more often now?

thranduil · 09-18-2004, 04:19 AM

unless he does occlumency. I would go to private drive this summer and teach him myself. Look at the **** that happened cuz he didnt practice occlumency.

I think someone will get pissed at harry and bring up the point of how much trouble harry is. And harry will finally realize how many people have been hurt by him just being alive

-parents died
-sirius died
-cedric died

and thats just to start it off. and that could be interesting on how harry reacts to realizing this.

Telcontar_Dunedain · 09-18-2004, 07:13 AM

Dumbledore knows that non of them were Harry's fault, so he wouldn't blame Harry for any of that. Harry's parents would have died any way. Voldemort didn't go after them just because Harry was born

09-15-2004, 04:04 PM	#302
thranduil Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 345	dumbledore will be teaching harry occlumency for now on. that would be cool if harry broke into dumbledores thoughts (i know highly unlikely) and discovered some of his past which gave some clues for the next book. Also dumbledores brother is most likely the bartender at hogs head and plays a more significant role in this book. __________________ "The first rule about Fight Club, You don't talk about Fight Club."

09-16-2004, 04:21 AM	#304
thranduil Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 345	I am pretty sure that dumbledore admits his bad judgement in trusting snape with this responsibility and says he should have tought him himself. I think I remember that right. And do you think dumbledore would actually risk letting someone else teach him after what happened with snape, which causes sirius death. __________________ "The first rule about Fight Club, You don't talk about Fight Club."

09-16-2004, 07:18 PM	#306
sirigorn Elven Warrior Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: who wants to know? looks around suspiciously Posts: 497	See...that's pretty much exactly why I thought it should be Dumbledore! ~Siri~ __________________ Gimli: It was already dead Legolas: It was twitching! Gimli: It was twitching...because it's got my axe embeded in it's nervous system!! -Two Towers extended DVD I'm wearing black for Black. Well, then, I confess, it is my intention to commandeer one of these ships, pick up a crew in Tortuga, raid, pillage, plunder and otherwise pilfer my weasely black guts out!~Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirates of the Caribbean

09-16-2004, 07:25 PM	#307
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I think that's what I suggested in our last argument. Again, isn't Dumbledore afraid, though, that Voldemort would know his relationships with Harry? Or do you think Voldemort already found out? Somehow? __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

09-17-2004, 11:46 AM	#310
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Voldemort could make Harry see things not the other way roulnd so Dumbledore teaching Harry should be okay. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-16-2004, 07:44 AM	#305
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Hmmm...good point!

09-17-2004, 07:59 AM	#309
Lizra Domesticated Swing Babe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Reality Posts: 5,340	Do you think Dumbledore's "affection" or special relationship with Harry is only because of the prophecy? (of course! )If Harry was just another very good student, Dumbledore probably wouldn't notice him much.....Thoughts like that must cross Harry's mind when he's feeling sorry for himself, or in a black mood...depressing.

09-18-2004, 02:12 AM	#312
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	I don't think he was sure. He hadn't seen Harry much siince Voldemort returned and didn't want to take the risk of Voldemort seeing things Harry did. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-18-2004, 02:33 AM	#314
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	But Dumbledore didn't actually look at Harry until Christmas. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-18-2004, 03:31 AM	#315
thranduil Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 345	yeah but that was intentional. It wasnt like he hadnt been able to keep an eye on him. __________________ "The first rule about Fight Club, You don't talk about Fight Club."

09-18-2004, 03:32 AM	#316
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Yeah but at the Disciplinry Hearing he had a choice to speak to Harry but just rushed off. __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-18-2004, 03:36 AM	#317
thranduil Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 345	he didn't speak to him because he was taking precautions. not that he just didnt feel like talking to him. Like when they look at each other at the portkey and harry feels like attacking dumbledore, he was trying to make sure nothing like that would happen. __________________ "The first rule about Fight Club, You don't talk about Fight Club."

09-18-2004, 03:40 AM	#318
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	But will Harry be getting that feeling more often now? __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

09-18-2004, 04:19 AM	#319
thranduil Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 345	unless he does occlumency. I would go to private drive this summer and teach him myself. Look at the **** that happened cuz he didnt practice occlumency. I think someone will get pissed at harry and bring up the point of how much trouble harry is. And harry will finally realize how many people have been hurt by him just being alive -parents died -sirius died -cedric died and thats just to start it off. and that could be interesting on how harry reacts to realizing this. __________________ "The first rule about Fight Club, You don't talk about Fight Club."

09-18-2004, 07:13 AM	#320
Telcontar_Dunedain Warrior of the House of Hador Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,651	Dumbledore knows that non of them were Harry's fault, so he wouldn't blame Harry for any of that. Harry's parents would have died any way. Voldemort didn't go after them just because Harry was born __________________ Then Huor spoke and said: "Yet if it stands but a little while, then out of your house shall come the hope of Elves and Men. This I say to you, lord, with the eyes of death: though we part here for ever, and I shall not look on your white walls again, from you and me a new star shall arise. Farewell!" The Silmarillion, Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Page 230

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