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It has also been observed in nature, rare situations where animals will kill weaker members for no known reason other than because they can. But this is rare. It can be argued that humans do the same... but in other, more manipulative ways. However, I understand what you are saying. Humans have been known to kill each other for no apparent reason other than because they can. And at a higher frequency than what has been observed in the rest of the animal kingdom. |
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Ruinel is correct. Murder and rape have been well documented amongst chimps.
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Hi everyone. As I skimmed through the thread, I realized that I've had a fair amount of exposure to religion.
I'm Anglican, and I was born and raised that way. My Dad is also Anglican (born and raised), but my Mom was raised Catholic. However, she decided in her adult life to become Anglican too. My boyfriend is Wiccan, and he wasn't raised as any religion. I've been to many Anglican services, and I taught Sunday school for a year. I've only been to one Catholic mass, and it was almost exactly the same as the Anglican ones I attend. It was a memorial service for a friend who died, and I sang with some of my friends. However, there is great variability within both the Catholic and Anglican churches. I've been to a High Anglican service, which is extremely different from the 'regular' ones. I participated in one Wiccan spell, but sadly, I don't really know very much about Wicca. My role was to provide energy, and I was told I did fine. Wicca is a department where I need to bone up on my knowledge. Cheers, Nurv
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Greetings, Nurvingiel!
If you are interested in learning more about Wicca, then go here, and ask questions.
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Or... if someone who knows more about Wicca could post a few answers to Nurvingiel's questions, that would also be appropriate to this thread.
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By the way, Rian:
I'm sorry, but I seem to have been propagating heresy. Evidently, the Church does not sanction asking the saints for direct intervention, but only for intercession. Oops... My apologies.
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Nurvingiel (can I call you Nurvy? )...I was interested in Wicca a few years ago, although I can't say that I ever really got into it or performed a spell.
What was it a spell for? And what "type" of Wiccans were those participating it it? Spells in Wicca are basically a way of praying, very similar to the way a Christian will approach God for help with a certain problem. Spells that severely interact with other people's lives (such as love spells) are usually looked down upon, I believe, in those who practice it seriously, and there is the three fold rule, as well. Any spell used to do harm will come back three times as badly on the person who cast it. Also, it is spelled magick with a K to differentiate it from the type of magic in Harry Potter and magicians/illusionists. There is black magick and white magick, IIRC.
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I would really appreciate it if someone could explain, as concisely as possible, what exactly Wicca is and where it comes from. I know three people who claim to be Wiccans, but none of them agree about what Wicca is, or if it is even a religion. (One in particular seems to be inclined to re-write history, and makes some pretty outrageous claims.) This leads me to think that two of the three aren't what they claim to be, or that two out of three haven't a clue about what they claim to be.
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Ru: Actually, Collyridian, according to the person I talked with.
Starr: The threefold rule doesn't apply if it's for the persons own good, does it? I remember an ex-Wiccan complaining about that some Wiccans will try to twist any vengeance etc. into "for someone's own good" to avoid this. Dave: Wicca was founded in the 1940s by a man named Gardner. Anyway, it is a very nature-based religion, which, if I remember correctly, believes that all of the pagan gods are only variants on the God and the Goddess; as a whole, Wicca is much more centered on the Goddess than the God. The Wiccan rede is "An it harm none, do what ye will." There are 161 Laws which are used in some Wiccan traditions, I believe. As Starr said, magic is to Wiccans basically what prayer is to Christians. Of course, I'm not Wiccan, so I'm not an expert.
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