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Creation by intelligent design is looking for identifiable design traits in what we see around us, such as two things that work together to form a function that cannot have developed separately, and irreducible complexity, and things like that. Sorry this is so vague; if you like, I'll look up a more formal definition and post it - let me know Am slightly brain-dead right now - long day! Since my last post, I've been quite busy with family matters, and am continuing to deal with some serious extended-extended (i.e., sister of a sister-in-law, etc.) family issues of drug addition and post-partum psychosis.
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I love you guys!! And thank you, Nurvi-sweetaroo, for your very kind words! I need to sign off now, I'll be back in the morn to address some more addressy things.
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In fact, since it is a negative sentence, episthemology would say that you cannot find evidence about it: you can prove that no known force is guiding of have initialized the process, but since science is developing passing from one paradigm to another. we cannot prove we know all possible forces and therefore we cannot prove that there's no initializing force.
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All living things change over time. This can be proven with simple life forms in any lab in the world any day of the week. The reason last year’s flu shot is not helping you this year is because the flu virus has evolved. This kind of evolution can be demonstrated in any good lab. It is a fact not a theory.
The only thing a creationist can argue is that more complex life forms (which have much slower life cycles which are unobservable in real time) are somehow exempt from a phenomena that can be demonstrated to be true of those with faster cycles like germs viruses etc.The only problem is there is no evidence that any life form is exempt from this process. There is also a mountain of evidence in the fossil record which shows all kinds of transitional forms of all species of plant and animal life which would support the idea that complex life is not exempt. The only opposition to evolution comes from people who have a conflicting view of the world based on a religious belief. There is no non-religeous opposition to evolution. That should tell you something. Remember science is a method, not a belief. |
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Sorry Hector, I don't see your point. Did you read the rest of the post and the follow-up posts?
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Ditto with IRex and Chrys and Fat Middle and hector. I will do anything on this thread for Jonathan, who in every post here has been polite, kind and thoughtful to me and others, and who has demonstrated on this thread (I'm sure on other threads, too, but I haven't really posted with him much) a willingness to carefully consider and think thru other people's opinions, even if they're different from his, and respectfully disagree if he ends up disagreeing. Why should I honor your request, when I ask you over and over to stop speaking for me and telling ME what MY thoughts and motives are, and you haven't granted that request or even apologized? Why should I make a one-post summary, when you yourself tell me (wrongly) that I know I can't? I don't honor taunts; I do honor requests made with consideration. Why in the world would you even be interested in any type of post from me, since you've said I'm blinded and deceived (IIRC) on this topic? Why should I take the time to compose a thought-out summary post, when I've already taken hours to compose that multi-post discussion of evidence and you say you don't think any of it is valid? Why?! Unless you promise to stop speaking for me and apologize for telling me what my own thoughts are and ask me respectfully and kindly to make this summary post, I won't. I would do it for Nurvi or Jonathan or IRex or Chrys or hector or FM, tho. I cannot and will not grant a request made disrespectfully ...unless I think a greater good is to be achieved by granting it. In this case, I don't think a greater good would be achieved, so I politely and respectfully decline to grant your request. End of subject, on my side.
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Jonathan - I'm looking up some very interesting stuff about bacterial resistance in reference to a fascinating study about frozen bodies that were exhumed and the characteristics of the bacteria found in them. I'm having trouble finding an internet reference, that's what's taking so long! I have a journal ref, but not an internet ref.
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I'm not giving you disrespect - or no less respect than you have given to me in some of yoru posts. I am asking for an answerr and the only think you do is tell me to go read your vovoluted posts. I'm sorry - I suppose that basically what you are saying is you don't want to support your beliefs in an easy to read manner. You would rather bury everything in a bunch of mumbo jumbo and not actually state your position clearly. Quote:
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BTW Rian - I was wondering - are you going to apologize for the rude comments toward me in your posts?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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