The Anti-theist Thread - Page 16

afro-elf · 03-26-2002, 11:06 PM

wayfarer you said you agreed with are facts

so please use ( show us) them to support a Christain god

afro-elf · 03-26-2002, 11:13 PM

i just started something on the thiest thread

i'm gonna take the bible chapter by chapter

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 11:13 PM

It's only because it says it in a book that was written several thousand years ago.

Khadrane · 03-26-2002, 11:23 PM

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Khadrane has been wrong before, but he's on the right track with this one.

Just a minor point, Wayfarer, I'm a girl.

jerseydevil · 03-26-2002, 11:26 PM

I told Tater there needed to be an Age/Sex/Location check thread.

emplynx · 03-26-2002, 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by mirrille
If God exists, he's going to exist whether I believe in him or not. Good for him! If he doesn't, then whether I believe in him or not, he still doesn't exist. (unless inside my mind).

Try talking to him sometime, he's a great guy!

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Originally posted by FrodoFriend
Besides, I don't like living at the beck and call of some "superior being" who does whatever he likes with me

He doesn't, he gave us free will and we can do whatever we want, but violating his laws aren't necessarily good.

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Originally posted by FrodoFriend
calls me a sinner

You are. I am. Wayfarer is. The Pope is. All mankind is.

BeardofPants · 03-26-2002, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Starr Polish
True, and there has been proof (read it in a science magazine some time ago) that there was a flood in the Dead Seas area, or something like that, many thousand years ago.

There have been several floods over the 'life span' of the Earth.

And stop distracting me! My proposal is due in a couple of hours!

emplynx · 03-26-2002, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Wayfarer
job.. well. job is one of my favorite books. You have to realize that it (and ecclesiates) don't make sense unless taken as a whole. Most of the arguments that take place in that book are dumb.

Job is an awesome book. It teachs TONS about faith in God.

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Originally posted by afro-elf
So you would have me believe that the bible claims women can have young deer for breasts

Song of Songs 7:3

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Your breasts are like two fawns,
twins of a gazelle

Doesn't claim that at all! It is a comparison! Don't take it out of context!

Khadrane · 03-26-2002, 11:53 PM

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Job is an awesome book. It teachs TONS about faith in God.

Agreed. Job rocks. I wish I could be like him.

afro-elf · 03-26-2002, 11:58 PM

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Originally posted by emplynx

Doesn't claim that at all! It is a comparison! Don't take it out of context!

YO I NEVER SAID THAT WAYFARER DID CHECK YOUR POST KID

Cirdan · 03-27-2002, 12:00 AM

Please use the Theist post for proselytizing. Job is fun but Jacob did the wrestling. Why does god always go for the folding chair first j/k?

afro-elf · 03-27-2002, 12:01 AM

THIS IS GETTING VERY DISTARCTING

oops sorry about the caps

how about we all withdraw from the battle-field and get back to tolkien?

Khadrane · 03-27-2002, 12:04 AM

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how about we all withdraw from the battle-field and get back to tolkien?

Yah. We could stop arguing about the origins of the earth and start arguing about whether Balrogs have wings or not.

jerseydevil · 03-27-2002, 12:05 AM

All that has to do with is what is written in a book. It has nothing to do with the search or proof that god exists. Science is for the search of truth. You guys aren't doing much other than quoting out of the bible. I can equally quote out of The Silmarillion and it's not any more or less true than what you're saying.

"In the beginning Eru, the One, who in the Elvish tongue is named Ilúvatar , made the Ainur of his thought; and they made a great music before him.

In that time the Valar brought order to the seas and the lands and the mountains, and Yavanna planted at last the seeds that she had long devised."

This is my 500th post.

mirrille · 03-27-2002, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Wayfarer

I'm not in the least upset with you. Really.
But you don't seem to be looking at the whole picture....etc...
Would I be out of line to suggest that you have problems because you didn't start with a real idea of what the bible says/

Please don't patronize me.

Let me assure you that I read all the parts I commented on and alot more. I discussed it some of it with my priest even (Catholic priest, of course, in case the denomination makes a difference in some of the basic tenets, but in this case, I think not.). The poor man did try, and in a non-patronizing way too, I'll give him that much. But I could find no satisfactory justification either in the material itself or anybody else's explanation. Maybe some people think that that kind of behaviour is ok. I don't. And that's that. I'm wasting my time with this religion. It's definitely not for me.

Sometimes I think I'm Buddhist at heart. But I don't "practice" any religion. Meaning I don't go to churches or temples to participate in arcane and bizarre rituals and that really have nothing to do with anything. I don't "worship" anything because I think that anything worthy of that is not the kind of thing that would specifically demand my worship. But I try to go through life in such a way that my impact on the world is a positive one. I don't care about your god anymore.

Rána Eressëa · 03-27-2002, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by emplynx
Try talking to him sometime, he's a great guy!

I have, actually. I asked him, "Why is everyone so weird?" He said, "Because I made them that way." I then asked, "Why?" and he told me, "Hey, look, I don't get cable like you do."

Cirdan · 03-27-2002, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by jerseydevil
All that has to do with is what is written in a book. It has nothing to do with the search or proof that god exists. Science is for the search of truth. You guys aren't doing much other than quoting out of the bible. I can equally quote out of The Silmarillion and it's not any more or less true than what you're saying.

"In the beginning Eru, the One, who in the Elvish tongue is named Ilúvatar , made the Ainur of his thought; and they made a great music before him.

In that time the Valar brought order to the seas and the lands and the mountains, and Yavanna planted at last the seeds that she had long devised."

This is my 500th post.

Congratulations JD!!! It looks like a long way to 500 from here, Elf Lord!

jerseydevil · 03-27-2002, 12:26 AM

Thanks -

It's not that far though for you. You just have to have no life like me.

But I'm not as bad as FrodoFriend - I think she lives here - or maybe she hires people to post for her.

Khadrane · 03-27-2002, 12:30 AM

I wish I was an Elven Lord.

One of the reasons I like this thread is because it jacks my post number up so fast.

Rána Eressëa · 03-27-2002, 01:06 AM

I'm still wondering if someone will answer one of my earlier questions...

"In your eyes, God made us. He created us. With that comes how we work. And if humans are capable of love, they are capable of hate. Therefore in creating us, creating the way we work: he has given us these abilities to do these things. Never give someone the ability to do something you don't want them to do. That's his big flaw. If he did it on purpose, however, and he punishes them - and I manipulate a quote from Ever After -- What are you but making criminals and then punishing them for it, when you're the one who raised them that way?"

This is a big bugger for me.

03-26-2002, 11:06 PM	#301
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	wayfarer you said you agreed with are facts so please use ( show us) them to support a Christain god __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-26-2002, 11:13 PM	#302
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	i just started something on the thiest thread i'm gonna take the bible chapter by chapter __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-26-2002, 11:13 PM	#303
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	It's only because it says it in a book that was written several thousand years ago. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-26-2002, 11:26 PM	#305
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	I told Tater there needed to be an Age/Sex/Location check thread. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-27-2002, 12:00 AM	#311
Cirdan Elf Lord of the Grey Havens Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somewhere else Posts: 2,381	Please use the Theist post for proselytizing. Job is fun but Jacob did the wrestling. Why does god always go for the folding chair first j/k? __________________ There exists a limit to the force even ther most powerful may apply without destroying themselves. Judging this limit is the true artistry of government. Misuse of power is the fatal sin. The law cannot be a tool of vengance, never a hostage, nor a fortification against the martyrs it has created. You cannot threaten any individual and escape the consequences. -Muad'dib on Law The Stilgar Commentary

03-27-2002, 12:01 AM	#312
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	THIS IS GETTING VERY DISTARCTING oops sorry about the caps how about we all withdraw from the battle-field and get back to tolkien? __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer.

03-27-2002, 12:05 AM	#314
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	All that has to do with is what is written in a book. It has nothing to do with the search or proof that god exists. Science is for the search of truth. You guys aren't doing much other than quoting out of the bible. I can equally quote out of The Silmarillion and it's not any more or less true than what you're saying. "In the beginning Eru, the One, who in the Elvish tongue is named Ilúvatar , made the Ainur of his thought; and they made a great music before him. In that time the Valar brought order to the seas and the lands and the mountains, and Yavanna planted at last the seeds that she had long devised." This is my 500th post. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-27-2002, 12:26 AM	#318
jerseydevil I am Freddie/UNDERCOVER/ Founder of The Great Continent of Entmoot Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Plainsboro, NJ Posts: 9,431	Thanks - It's not that far though for you. You just have to have no life like me. But I'm not as bad as FrodoFriend - I think she lives here - or maybe she hires people to post for her. __________________ Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-27-2002, 12:30 AM	#319
Khadrane Elf Lord Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Middle Earth (I wish) Posts: 670	I wish I was an Elven Lord. One of the reasons I like this thread is because it jacks my post number up so fast. __________________ Few know whither their road will take them till they come to its end. -Legolas FRODO LIVES! ABORTION IS HOMICIDE

03-27-2002, 01:06 AM	#320
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	I'm still wondering if someone will answer one of my earlier questions... "In your eyes, God made us. He created us. With that comes how we work. And if humans are capable of love, they are capable of hate. Therefore in creating us, creating the way we work: he has given us these abilities to do these things. Never give someone the ability to do something you don't want them to do. That's his big flaw. If he did it on purpose, however, and he punishes them - and I manipulate a quote from Ever After -- What are you but making criminals and then punishing them for it, when you're the one who raised them that way?" This is a big bugger for me. Last edited by Rána Eressëa : 03-27-2002 at 01:08 AM.

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