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03-22-2003, 09:13 PM | #303 |
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I hate the way politics makes people "hate each other"! This "us versus them" crap has got to stop. Some people (both sides) just cannot stand having things go a different way than the one they're "in" at the time. I am more than happy to admit I have been wrong before, and will be wrong again. Things are not so black and white in this world, that it can't handle a little "sway". Political hatred makes normally sensible people insane! That's why I really hate these talk show host types (and big mouthed celebrities) who deliberately try to fan the flames of hatred among political parties. UGH!
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03-23-2003, 01:11 AM | #304 | ||
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I changed my mind concerning war with Iraq. Initially, in the very beginning 2001, I was against it - then in 2002 I was undecided. But then we went to the UN - and were basically stonewalled - while Hussein continued to play the same old games. No comment on the hollywood people. Although Khamul sent me this. Travis Tritt speaks out about Hollywood and the Dixie Chicks in particular... Quote:
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03-24-2003, 01:12 AM | #306 | |
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Also, if he did say that early on then what would the point be in even going to the UN?
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03-24-2003, 01:15 AM | #307 | |
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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03-24-2003, 02:30 AM | #308 |
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Have you noticed anything fishy about the inspection teams in Iraq? They're all men! How in the name of the United Nations, does anyone expect men to find Saddam's stash? We all know that men have a blind spot when it comes to finding things. For crying out loud! Men can't find the dirty clothes basket. Men can't find the jar of jam, until it falls out of the cupboard and splatters on the floor.... And these are the people we have sent into Iraq to search for hidden weapons of mass destruction? I keep wondering why groups of mothers weren't sent in. Mothers can
sniff out secrets quicker than a drug-dog can find a gram of dope. Mothers can find gin bottles that dads have stashed in the loft beneath the rafters. They can sniff out a diary two rooms and one floor away. They can tell when the lid of the biscuit jar has been disturbed, and notice when a centimetre slice has been shaved off a chocolate cake. A mother can smell alcohol on your breath before you get your key in the front door, and can smell cigarette smoke from a block away. By examining laundry, a mother knows more about her kids than Sherlock Holmes. And if a mother wants an answer to a question, she can read an offender's eyes, quicker than a homicide detective. So... considering the value a mother could bring to an inspection team, why are we sending a bunch of old men, who will rely on electronic gadgets to scout out hidden threats? My mother would walk in with a wooden soup spoon in one hand, grab Saddam by the ear, give it a good twist and snap, "Young man, do you have any weapons of mass destruction?" And help him if he tried to lie to her! She'd march him down the street to some secret bunker, and shove his nose onto a nuclear bomb and say, "Uh, huh, and what do you call this, mister?" Whap! Thump! Whap! Whap! Whap! And she'd lay some stripes across his bare bottom with that soup spoon, then march him home in front of the whole of Baghdad. He'd not only come clean and apologize for lying about it, he'd cut every lawn in Baghdad free, for the whole Summer. You want the job done? Call my mother. Sorry - couldn't resist
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Baby-K - That was INCREDIBLY funny.
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OMGoodness, Baby-K, you're funny today!! LOVE IT!!
My two youngest still can't figure out how I know so much....
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LOL! Hilarious, K.
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03-24-2003, 02:50 AM | #313 |
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I found it very funny too .
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Our soldiers need special prayer now, and our military leaders (for those who believe in prayer's effectiveness). I'm not trying to transform this into a religious thread in any way, people, but our troops are closing in on Baghdad and are about to encounter two divisions of the Republican Guard. These people are using human shields and are dressed in civilian clothes, and it seems impossible to me that the situation will be resolved without large casualties.
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It may be hard - but we will bring down this tyrant. Hussein is also using civilians as human shields to now. Lief - you might want to add the POWs in there. Do you think Hussein is really going to abide the Geneva Convention?
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I've been aware of and praying about all those things. I just now wasn't giving an update on what's happened in the war today, but on what's coming next. Otherwise I'd probably have also mentioned that American soldier throwing those grenades into our commanders' tents and then shooting in with his gun.
Saddam Hussein already has broken the Geneva Convention by his actions to the U.S. prisoners he captured. It appears that he's executed at least four of them and displayed their bodies on public television. He also showed the interrogations of the others, and it sounded to me as though they'd already been abused. The only way Saddam or whoever is in charge now will begin to abide by the Geneva Convention is if he sees that it is strongly against his interests to continue in that way. Such as, if it brought about an anger against him in the Arab world (Which it won't; I'm just using that as an example). Last edited by Lief Erikson : 03-24-2003 at 03:23 AM. |
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03-24-2003, 03:31 AM | #318 | |
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That's the part we feel they broke. I'm sure it's not the only part they've broken though. They broke the convention in 1991 - but nothing is done. What purpose does this convention serve - if the countries who have no regard with it get to do whatever they want? It's not like Hussein has been brought before a criminal court or his regime has been "outlawed" by the world community.
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I won't mention the UN- might be better to go into that in a new topic.
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