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Nán analassea vinyar queni nar sinómesse. Haryan estel tecuvante?
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"Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?" |
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Oh, by the way, nati means 'things'
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"Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?" |
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Thanks! It was really beginning to bother me. So Linanrinthë isn't a real elven word? Typical. Sooo typical. It'd be just like her for making up a word and see me sweat on finding the translation. I don't think she had it from the Barrowdowns, she doesn't know that site yet. My guess is she probably mixed it together using the Silmarillion and liked the sound of the word.
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Sanda, Eärniel, sanda.
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what's sanda? and what is -endë (the first diaeresis should drop out, i think)? i'm not sure of "tecil". if you want to say "i want you to write here" you should use the infinitive of tec instead of aortist, and in that case it's be "tecital". right?
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If there are any Sindarin speaking entmooters out there (which I know there are), could you please tell me how you would say 'Bridgette' in Sindar?
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According to my source, "Bridgette" or "Bridget" means "high goddess". I do not know how this is said in Sindarin, but I do know the name in Quenya. "High" is best translated "ara"="high, noble", and the nearest thing to goddesses in Tolkien's legendarium are the female Valar, the Valier, singular Valië. Therefore Bridgette= Aravalië in Quenya. A very beautiful name, pronounced air-ah-val-i-ay, with a trilled 'r'.
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I'm not sure, but I think it would be like Arabalan. Is there a feminine ending in Sindarin? I believe that the Sindarin for High would be "ar, ara, aran" and the Sindarin for Power or Vala be "Balan". Not sure about the Valar, though.
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In Sindarin it should indeed be 'balan', but 'balan' would be lenited when put into a combo, can't remember into what. It would be either 'valan' or 'mhalan' or something like that...
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Aravalan.
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I didn't drop the diaeresis because I didn't know how much Quenya you knew and was trying to make it easier for you. I'm not at home, I'm on vacation. I don't have my Quenya notes w/ me. Eärniel: I'm glad we could help you. ![]() ![]() Hmmmm... looks like Falagar and I will both be on vacation at the same time. I'm already on vacation now. ![]() ![]() Namarië. ![]() ![]() |
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Sweet, so many new people here since I was here last. A note on infinitives: I always thought A-stem verbs were not changed at all, and that basic verbs added e. What Fat Middle (?) said about the -ita ending is the extended infinitive. I believed it was used to say 'in order to ____'. It's also how you form gerunds, I think. But maybe what Fat Middle (?) said was right?
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The extended infinitive may also function as a gerund, that is, a verbal noun the English equivalent of which is formed with the ending -ing. (This English ending is also used to form active participles, but they are quite distinct in Quenya, ending in -la instead.) An extended infinitive is seen to function as an gerund in the sentence lá carita i hamil mára alasaila ná, "not to do [or, not doing] what you judge good would be unwise" (VT42:33). Another infinitival/gerundial ending is -ië, as in the verbal noun tyalië "play(ing)" vs. the basic verb tyal- "to play". The final -a of an A-stem verb would apparently be omitted before the ending -ië is added (and in the case of a verb ending in -ya, this entire ending would have to go, since **-yië would be an impossible combination). Combined with the dative ending -n "to, for", such gerunds in -ië may express the meaning of English infinitives signifying "[in order] to do": The verb enyal- "recall" is attested in the form enyalien "[in order] to recall/commemorate", which Tolkien explained as a gerund inflected for dative (UT:317). And: The infinitive of a basic verb (e.g. quet- "to speak") shows the ending -ë, as in the example polin quetë "I can speak" (VT41:6). A-stem verbs apparently show no special endings in the infinitive; the stem and the infinitive are simply identical (for instance, the verb lelya- "go" would have the infinitive lelya "to go"). Thus, the infinitive is identical in form to an (endingless) aorist. Quenya also has an extended infinitive which adds the ending -ta; when added to the infinitive of a basic verb, its ending -ë instead appears as -i-: While the simplest infinitive of the verb car- "to do, to make" is carë, its extended infinitive is thus carita. The extended infinitive may receive pronominal endings denoting the object of the infinitive, e.g. -s "it" in caritas "to do it". Therer we go! Whatever happened to Almie?
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