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Thanks so much, TC, I printed it out and I'll get back to you when my head is unstuffed - awful cold!!
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun!  Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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11-10-2002, 06:08 AM
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Aw, poor RÃ*an! *hands RÃ*an a large cup of hot chocolate*
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11-11-2002, 04:22 AM
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Ooohh, thanks so much Eärniel!
 I feel better already! I love hot chocolate!! How's your Tengwar coming along? Are you getting to sit down on the bus at all?TC - really pretty, thanks for sharing it! I like how you switched modes from English mode (vowel over following consonant) to Quenya mode (vowel over preceding consonant) for the Quenya words. However, that made me think about the "preceding nasal" tilde thingo (the tilde over a 't', for example, to indicate "nt") - I bet they don't use it in Quenya mode because you read from bottom up, so the order would be wrong, if that makes sense. I like your s-curls! Such fun! and your 'r' tengwa is very nice. I see "are" is in there - my favorite word to write, it's so pretty with the 'a' dots and the 'r' character. I enjoy how our Tengwar "handwriting" is different - it's not just a boring code to copy, it's really very individual. Here's what I got:
Is that right, esp. the Quenya part? ps - I noticed that you write your t, p, d and b tengwar with the bottom of the STEM on the baseline. In case you didn't know, JRRT wrote them with the bottom of the BOW on the baseline (like a lower case 'p' - check out the writing on the title page of LoTR books). You probably knew, but I wanted to point that out in case you didn't. It's perfectly readable your way, of course, and it's probably just your personal preference,which is fine.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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11-11-2002, 04:50 AM
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I only keep confusing a few tengwar. The bus is still full unless I have early classes. So I started rehearsing them before I go to sleep too. Next weekend I'm going to try and find some time to read up on how to use them in texts.
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11-16-2002, 09:03 PM
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Your Tengwar is really pretty Tinuvel Child! How long did it take you to write that? My writing is still really slow as I have to look up a lot of letters, especially vowels.
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11-17-2002, 12:00 AM
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Thanks, RÃ*an! Yeah, it's all correct and yummy. I actually didn't know about the correct way to write t, p, b, and d; thank you! I think I'll just keep writing them the way I have, though, unless I remember to write them the other way
 Celebrian - it didn't take me long at all! I just sorta doodled it in the middle of History class, thought it looked neat and remembered how long it's been since I posted any Tengwar, and decided to copy it over, neater, and scan it in. Don't worry, after awhile, the letters and vowels become second nature and you hardly have to think about them!
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11-17-2002, 09:14 PM
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Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!)
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Celebrian - it helped me quite a bit to memorize them in groups - i.e., t, p, d and b go together (I think of them as the 'p'-looking group). The 'p' is a 't' sound, only with closing your lips (as indicated by the closed bow element). Same with 'd' and 'b' - the 'b' is the same as the 'd' sound, just close your lips. The others can be grouped, too. Let me know if you want more detail.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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11-20-2002, 11:00 PM
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Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!)
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Has anyone tried to read the Tengwar on the extended version menu page? For some reason, I can't seem to make it out...
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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11-20-2002, 11:00 PM
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Custous Sanctus
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it looks like this thread has almost died.... I mean C'mon! no one has been on it for three whole days!!!
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11-20-2002, 11:08 PM
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Yeah, it's sad. I haven't had anything to say...so I haven't. I have been writing a lot but nothing worth note. By the was, how does everyone write "is" and "ou" sounds? Oh also on the writing on the Moria gate there is sort of a c thing apparently used for "a"? I use that sometimes instead of the carriers, because I don't like carriers much. Comments?
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11-20-2002, 11:13 PM
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Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!)
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I'm in such a bummer of a mood today - I don't feel like doing anything! Hey, I just posted a few minutes ago - did you guys see it? Do you have the extended version? What does your new title mean, Ms. U? Congrats, BTW! katya, can you give me some word examples for 'is' and 'ou' then I'll tell you how I would write it. And the Moria gate letters are the Eregion style, or something like that, where vowels are separate tengwa.
Argh, I've been so good lately, and now I've just been sitting around like a fungus bumming off for the last few hours!!
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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11-20-2002, 11:44 PM
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Hello Rian! long time no talk!! my title is Latin for "Guardian of all things holy." And thank you for noticeing!!! you are the first one who said anything about it!!
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11-21-2002, 09:50 AM
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Elven Maiden
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RÃ*an, you changed your avatar didn't you? It looks much better. Yes, I know it is a diffferent mode or whatever on the Moria gate, but I like the "c" thing better than using a carrier so i use it sometimes. About "is" and "ou", I never really know what to write. I do "is" and the "s" (whichever one I normally use, whichever # that is) and the "i" thingy, but I use it a lot and wondered if anyone had any ways they used that looked nicer. For the "ou" sound i either do a carrier for the "o" and the "u"
thingy over the next letter or combine them sort of. Either way, it doesn't seem to look right. In words like "you" I use only the "u". I guess in some word an "a" then a "w" or something would work better. |
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11-21-2002, 02:18 PM
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Half-Elven Princess of Rabbit Trails and Harp-Wielding Administrator (beware the Rubber Chicken of Doom!)
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Ms. U - yeah, long time! (can I spill the beans to the others here? or do you want to?) Why did you pick that title? I'm curious...
katya - yes, it used to be just a scan, but I found a way to edit it in the paint program, so I spruced it up a bit and made it a little more feminine with the flowery-thingy, because I think that not many people know that RÃ*an is actually the name of a female character in the Silmarillion, and I wouldn't want someone to think I was a man! (it's such fun being a woman!) I write the word 'is' with an 'i' mark over the 'z' character, both because that's how it sounds and because I think it looks prettier. I typically write 'you' as 'y' then 'u' over the carrier, but sometimes I'll write both 'o' and 'u'. As far as 'ou', I either write 'ow', 'o' or 'u', depending upon the sound. Isn't it fun how it's so flexible! Let's brainstorm up some interesting words and then compare how we write them!
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 11-21-2002 at 02:19 PM. |
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11-21-2002, 02:23 PM
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Custous Sanctus
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Rian- (I want to
) well, I told my sister I needed help picking a title and she suggested that one. and I could not think of anything better so I decided that I wanted it!
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11-21-2002, 02:43 PM
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Ms. U - go right ahead
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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11-21-2002, 07:50 PM
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I'm also hoping someone from "down under" will join us soon....
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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11-21-2002, 10:00 PM
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Well you certainly know more than me. I understand how Tengwar works - the vowels go above the consonants and you read them in a downwards motion. I just have to memorize the letters. I guess the best thing to do is to practice translating words, hopefully I can find a good website for this. Speaking of the FOTR extended version, did it say Gilraen on Aragorns mothers grave? I could translate it, but I havn't had time yet. I need my cheat sheet. 
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Welcome to the thread! I hope you come to like Tengwar as much as we do Quote:
And yes, it did at least start to say Gilraen, I saw "gilr" and the rest was covered. But I still can't translate the Tengwar on the disk 1 top level menu!! Some of it I can't make out (it's a bit fuzzy) but the parts I can make out the letters, it doesn't make sense! It's hard to believe that they would just put random letters, but it doesn't seem to translate to either English or Quenya - has anyone else tried to translate? 
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?*"How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 11-22-2002 at 01:23 AM. |
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11-22-2002, 01:26 AM
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Don't have the EE-DVD, so cannot possibly have tried to translate...shall need to coerce a friend who does have it to let me watch it in the very near future. Shall get back to you on this, yes?
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