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Advocatus Diaboli
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there's also the possibility of finding better alternatives for non-violent criminals... at-home detention for instance
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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The problem is that smaller states will have to send their prisoners someplace. States like Texas accept prisoners from out of state (at a price). Not that the general public wants this, mind you. It's just another way to make money off another state. Sort of like, taking in someone's trash.
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"...so sweety you see it actually is better for your well being if you um... I mean you dont want to be sacrificed right...." ![]() *running from the parents* Quote:
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of the House of Fëanor
Join Date: Apr 2005
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What do you guys think about Tookie Williams getting the death axe next week? Can people redeem themselves after commiting a crime of murder? Do you believe in an eye for an eye, or do you think it leaves everyone blind? I'm curious to see what others here think about this. I myself am a little torn. I don't believe in the death penalty, but there ARE certain extremely unbelieveably loathesome criminals from time to time of whom it can easily be said, "let them taste death" or whatever. But what about redemption? And how does killing a killer right things, or help society; is it ethical? And if so, why, and if NOT, why?
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of the House of Fëanor
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Here you guys; here's a cool article from the L.A. Weekly I read yesterday, which got me thinking. It'll give you all some idea of what I was talking about mentioning Tookie as an example of the death penalty thing.
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/06/02/news-krikorian.php
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What really should have happen (for the sake of true justice) is he should have wound up dead when he was still gang banging and doing illegal stuff so there wouldnt have had to be all this money spent and we wouldnt be in the dilemma we are in now where we are killing a "changed man" years after the fact. That being said, Im of the opinion that the death penalty is generally a bad idea because it kills innocent people and because it kills certain segments of people unfairly. Life in prison is worse anyway if you ask me.
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An enigma in a conundrum
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Yep. Everyone facing death row, finds God, changes their personality, sings Kumby-yah. You do the crime, you do the time. You kill somebody or some people, you gotta go; bub-bye .
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Advocatus Diaboli
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the death penalty is wrong because it can not be reversed in the case of a mistake... but, many more innocent people die or are subject to terrible tragedies due to the release of "reformed" criminals into society than the handful of innocents that are executed until we develop the strength it takes as a society to properly deal with those who commit crimes, the "easy way out" (the death penalty) is preferrable to the other "easy way out" (early release from crowded prisons)
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I don’t see how you can logically justify killing innocents so that you don’t risk the POSSIBILITY of allowing innocents to be killed. That doesn’t make sense to me. And Im fairly dubious as to how many prisoners who would otherwise be on death row would wind up out of prison killing all these innocent people. I mean weve only put to death 1000 people since like 1978 as it is. The numbers aren’t really there.
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