07-02-2002, 08:25 AM | #281 |
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yeh I liket Arwen in the little parts of the story she was in. In a way I think she gave Aragorn courage to overcome hard times in his journies. Plus she was wise and loving to her father as well as a good queen as far as I know.
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07-06-2002, 10:19 AM | #282 |
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Eowyn is ALOT better, i hate arwen, kill arwen, dround arwen, throw arwen of a kliff ect., i have this thing against Arwen, she always gets all of this credit, whene all she dose is marry aragorn, if i am rong then correct me, i only read THE HOBBIT, and THE LORD OF THE RINGS seriese, i also read the apendix part on arwen and aragorn, but still, she dose NOTHING! fill free to corect me on that!
arwen= sorry for getting a little off the subject!
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07-08-2002, 08:58 AM | #283 |
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I agree, Tolkien should have written more about Arwen, but I guess he was tied up telling the guy's POV story. But he certainly created an AMAZING character in Eowyn, and even had that understanding of women where they get a crush on one guy, but end up falling for the other guy! How cool is that?
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07-08-2002, 02:19 PM | #284 |
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pov?
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07-08-2002, 06:37 PM | #285 |
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pov=point of veiw
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07-08-2002, 06:43 PM | #286 |
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Tolkien didn't invent Arwen until he was almost done with the book. Consequently he didn't want to rewrite a large section of the story just to fit her in, so he found a way to place her unobtrusively in the story and put much of her story in the appendices.
Aragorn's Dimple has a point. We aren't told much about Arwen outside her relationship with Aragorn.
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07-08-2002, 06:45 PM | #287 |
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Is this thread *still* going?! Geez, let all the hate go... It's not healthy!
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07-12-2002, 05:00 PM | #288 |
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Eowyn, definitely. She's got more character. I hope Faramir doesn't kill me
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I don't think Faramir would kill you. . .he'd just be very smug that he was married to her
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07-12-2002, 09:03 PM | #290 |
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If I had to choose, I would say Arwen. I don't really know why....I guess it's because I "met" her first.
It annoys me a little when people say they hate Arwen because she "stole" Glorfindel's part in the movie and she doesn't do anything. (*cough*ff.n authors *cough*) IMO, Arwen is a more developed character and actually does something worthwhile because of this.
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She's more developed than she would have been if she hadn't rescued him. Similarly, she's more worthwhile.
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07-13-2002, 01:35 AM | #294 |
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I'm getting a bit confused about who people are talking about.
What does Arwen do in the book anyway, 'cept make a banner and marry the King? Eowyn kills the witch king! You can't say Arwen is a more developed character.
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07-13-2002, 10:14 AM | #295 |
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I gave my opinion on who I liked better and then I went a little bit off topic...what I meant was it annoys me when people bash Arwen because she took Glorfindel's part in the movie and doesn't do much. But by taking Glorfindel out, they gave her something to do. *shrugs* Did that sound confusing? Sorry, if it is.
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Thanks for clearing that up. . .but this is the book forum. Which means books, not movie. Which is why it's especially annoying when people say they hate Arwen.
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07-13-2002, 07:48 PM | #297 |
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Personally, I'm more mad at the movie script writers than Arwen for stealing Glorfindel's part...but I digress...
I don't like Arwen because, even though she's an incredibly important character (Let's face it: she WAS Aragorn's motivation to become King of the Reunited Kingdoms), she doesn't get to do or say much. I don't mean 'do' much in the sense of 'go-out-there-with-a-sword-and-kick-some-tail', more along the lines of 'get mentioned'. She has a tiny non-speaking part in FOTR, and then she marries Aragorn and gives Frodo a necklace in ROTK...ehem. Whereas Eowyn's story is sad and beautiful in so many ways...every time I think about her, especially when she just wakes in the Houses of Healing and realizes that she has to continue to live with all her pain, I cry. Considering Eowyn's part in LOTR is just one big angst fic, does it seem ironic to anyone else that her name means 'Horse-Joy'? Translation of Eowyn's name can be found under her entry at the Encyclopedia of Arda, at: http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm
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07-14-2002, 02:54 PM | #298 |
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Eowyn more developed in the book, that's obvies. Arwen doesn't developed in the book but I liked her more. Eowyn annoyed me (as I wrote before).
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07-20-2002, 06:10 PM | #299 |
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) they are both good characters. They each have their difer parts to play to complete the story. Imagine if Arwen did stuff that Eowyn did. Then the story would be weird(I think ).
Anyway arwen & Eowyn both are great characters, but eowyn played a bigger part. (plus Elrond would slice you if he existed)
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Trying to keep the book and movie seperate while I do this...
Strictly speaking of the book here...
Eowyn has more character development, as well as killing the Nazgul Captain. This is not to say that Arwen isn't important. Aragorn's love for her makes him more human, instead of a lean, mean Ranger machine. (Not that he doesn't care about his friends too, but I digress.) Also, Arwen deeply inspires Aragorn which is inferred from Aragorn's actions. Not a lot about her is described in the book and the reader has to assume a lot of things. But she is definately a kick ass Half-elf. I love Arwen because she's mysterious and cool. I love Eowyn because she kick major butt. (Faramir also rocks, so the fact that they get together is a plus for both of them.) Beard of Pants has a good point though. I'm not sure how long this thread has been going on, but we should leave movie-Arwen out of the thread altogether. Just because Liv Tyler had moments of lameness in the movie is no reason to dump on the beautiful and mysterious book-Arwen. (In my mind, they are seperate entities unlike most other characters.) |
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