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Khamul - if you read this - I just wanted to know if French news was right about Alabama - is it the most racist state in the country?
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I was going to post this yesterday - but didn't. I find this very interesting...
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[edit]BTW - I forgot to put this - I wonder where these people will go after Canada becomes part of the US.
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[EDIT]Quebec most likely would not come over - so you would lose the "french" vote there. :P
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Do the math. In an election that was very close, what percentage of the population voting on the basis of race and/or gender would it take to change the outcome of the election?
There is a reason Obama is the first African-American in the Senate since reconstruction. There is a reason there only several females. There is a reason there has never been a female or AA president. Segregation may be in the past but racism is alive and well. Progress has been made. The greatest factor may be that whites will soon be the minority to non-whites (already are in Cali).
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What a stupid article! This is no offence to you JD, I know you just put it for fun... at least I hope that... maybe it is kind of funny. The sad part is, I think these people think this is some sort of viable plan!
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All this rant it to get into my real rant. The idea that your election went badly so you're going to skip town pisses me off. At least you have elections! There is no genocide, no horrible civil war, no oppression, no starvation or pandemic illness... in the grand scheme of things, the USA is a great place to live. So you don't like the government. Boo hoo. Stay in your country and make it a better place, and leave immigration for people who legitimately need it like political refugees. That being said, I have no problems with someone moving because they'd like to live here for a variety of reasons, but moving because of the election's outcome irritates me. I also have no issue at all with gay couples moving here to be legitimately married. What if Stephen Harper became Prime Minister? *shudder* Would all these people up and leave again instead of trying to help get someone sensible elected? And we are not going to join the USA, what on Earth gave you that idea? And hey, leave our navy out of this!
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Hey, what about all the Canadian nurses and doctors I have worked with in the past 20+ years? They were in SC, VA, and TX - partly because it was warmer, of course, but also so they could make some money instead of working for the Canadian government! Least that was the reason they gave!
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BTW - France is also in desperate problems with their health care - along with the rest of their socialist policies - but every time they try to change something there is this huge outcry.
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The world isn’t filled with tons of Colin Powells and Clarence Thomases. The vast majority of blacks feel disenfranchised by the policies and ideals of the republican party. Is anyone in the party asking themselves why is that? Are you at all concerned with that or do you not care? Some blacks agree with some of the republican social issues but it tends to be overwhelmed by the anti-poor “screw you, you get no hand out from me” air that seems to surround republicans. And just saying blacks are “misguided and blinded” IS a perfect example of simply writing them off as I said. The bottom line is republicans write blacks off and democrats take blacks for granted. What a great situation to be in eh?
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For the same reason that the vast majority of Americans feel disenfranchised by the policies and ideals of politicians in general. Is anyone on either side stopping to consider the possibility that they've alienated most of the country?
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As for what democrats have done - hwat have they done? You think democrats have actually made life better for most blacks? You think anything has changed with them constantly supporting the democrats? Give me a break. As you said - the democrats just take them as a guaranteed vote and don't care about them at all. Republicans expect people to work for what they get and earn it- not just expect it to be handed to them by the government.
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We are not a party to serve one constituent, we are MADE UP of the constituents. We ARE the people of color, and the gays, and the single moms, and the minimum wage workers. We are also the peaceniks, and the tree-huggers, and the artists. So don't propose to speak on our behalf. The Democratic Party is our alliance. Our constituents determine our platform and, when we are in power, establish policy. We're people, not just points to be scored.
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Blacks don’t think much of democrats OR republicans. But they realize they are much better off with feeble powered democrats right now then they are with republicans who cut them off from everything and tell them I don’t care how much harder it is for you. Pull your own damn self up by yourself. Don’t look to me. And its such a shock that blacks go to democrats?
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By the way - the democrats feel that GIVING a money to person is much more beneficial than actually TEACHING them to care for themselves. As long as they continue to adhere to the democratic programs of "give give give" they will never be able to support themselves and they will always expect these handouts.
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I'm a Democrat and I don't feel that giving money to underprivileged people is more beneficial than teaching them. Teaching is a great idea. There should be plenty of job training programs for poor people. But I wonder, do you expect the teachers to volunteer? Because you know, it costs money to teach people, and the Republicans seem unwilling to spend that money.
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