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And on the whole, my villains tend to be craftier, except towards the end. By that time, many of them have gone crazy for one reason or another, at least to some degree. It's somewhat like what Brian Jacques often does to his main villains.
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Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan) |
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I had considered making another book with the same characters, but I realized (or rather, MB pointed out) that it might not work out because I wouldn't have enough new material. Ugh, I have so many books to work on. Besides my mystery, I have my fantasy series (3 books, but I've only started one so far), another mystery book, and then a few others that are just ideas now. I'm not sure how many, but I don't feel like going and searching through my room to find my plot notebook right now. Quote:
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Here we were trying to take Rommel, when who do we kidnap but Admiral Todley himself. What? Hahahaha. That wasn't the plan you know. - Col. Crittendon Monk: I'm 100% sure that she probably killed him. Stottlemeyer: What does that mean? Monk: 95%... I feel like Pepé Le Pew when he look up "pew" in the dictionary. *French accent* Le pew? Moi? Noo. -Shawn Spencer *British accent* It's a bobble head Bobbie! *head bob* -Special Agen Seely Booth |
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When I write, my style is a bit different. In my first draft of whatever I'm writing, my characters are horribly developed. The story comes out, but the characters are pathetically written. Very stereotypical, very formulaic. I realize that when I'm editing and as I'm rewriting and editing, the characters and personalities take shape. That's just my present style. Quote:
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If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do." Last edited by Lief Erikson : 07-12-2007 at 08:06 PM. |
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If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do." |
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Here we were trying to take Rommel, when who do we kidnap but Admiral Todley himself. What? Hahahaha. That wasn't the plan you know. - Col. Crittendon Monk: I'm 100% sure that she probably killed him. Stottlemeyer: What does that mean? Monk: 95%... I feel like Pepé Le Pew when he look up "pew" in the dictionary. *French accent* Le pew? Moi? Noo. -Shawn Spencer *British accent* It's a bobble head Bobbie! *head bob* -Special Agen Seely Booth |
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Haha, and yes, I think you can summarize every Redwall book as follows... Bad guy shows up Hero goes to find something to save the Abbey Hero finds the something Bad guy goes crazy Hero duels and beats bad guy Quote:
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Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan) |
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07-12-2007, 11:35 PM | #287 |
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My problem isn't finishing the book, like some people (not that I've finished anything yet), but figuring out how to start the gosh darn thing. And as for names, they just come to me. Except for fantasy. Those names need to be extra special.
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07-14-2007, 09:09 PM | #288 |
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Ah, starting the book...that is a challenge. An interesting opening scene is always the best way to do things. Think of a major event that happens soon at the beginning of your intended plot, and jump into it.
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Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan) |
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I really like everything having logical explanations. I find fracturing between evil factions to commonly be logical, because bad people are often self-oriented and focused not only on the advancement of their group but also upon their own personal advancement within the group. So that kind of luck that helps the good guys might be "lucky" from their perspective, but it actually makes a good deal of sense too. So that I can live with. But I really want to use skill or intelligence on the part of the good characters to get them their primary successes. That's by far the most interesting to me. Quote:
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If the world has indeed, as I have said, been built of sorrow, it has been built by the hands of love, because in no other way could the soul of man, for whom the world was made, reach the full stature of its perfection. ~Oscar Wilde, written from prison Oscar Wilde's last words: "Either the wallpaper goes, or I do." Last edited by Lief Erikson : 07-14-2007 at 11:55 PM. |
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Actually, I was re-reading what I've written of my mystery just for fun, and I noticed some things that need fixing, but I don't want to erase what I wrote, becuase that would mean a lot of re-writing, so I'll probably just attach some stick notes that contain the edits.
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Here we were trying to take Rommel, when who do we kidnap but Admiral Todley himself. What? Hahahaha. That wasn't the plan you know. - Col. Crittendon Monk: I'm 100% sure that she probably killed him. Stottlemeyer: What does that mean? Monk: 95%... I feel like Pepé Le Pew when he look up "pew" in the dictionary. *French accent* Le pew? Moi? Noo. -Shawn Spencer *British accent* It's a bobble head Bobbie! *head bob* -Special Agen Seely Booth |
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And yeah I know this was directed at Curub, but I answered it anyway
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If anybody wants me to read their books (or extracts) just Pm them to me.
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The axes hewed Forlong as he fought alone and unhorsed; and both Duilin of Morthond and his brother were trampled to death when they assailed the mumakil,leading their bowmen close to shoot at the eyes of the monsters. Neither Hirluin the fair would return to Pinnath Gelin, nor Grimbold to Grimslade, nor Halbarad to the northlands,dour-handed Ranger. Those that would not return home, page830-831, The Battle of the Pelennor Fields, The Return of the King |
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Well, looks like I've just made yet another conscious decision to rewrite ZAQ-1 almost completely. Not to say it's bad, but basically I need to triple the length of everything I've written so far, and add some crazy Bradbury-like descriptions.
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TB I think it's a sign of quality that you're re-writing your book. More power to ya.
Thain, if you are stuck on names you could try using "working" names. I do this so I can just keep writing. Call your main character Bob or whatever until you think of the name that really fits him, so at least you don't have sentences like, "Then out of nowhere ____ tackled ____ from behind; needless to say ____ was surprised."
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I used a working name in one story. I named a character after a mooter. The name stuck and I'm still using it
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12-22-2007, 04:07 PM | #296 |
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The question being...which mooter would this be? (Or did I miss an obvious subtlety?)
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Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan) |
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Who? Who!?
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Hahah, now you've done it, Acalewia! Now all you have to say is that they have to buy the book to find out and you've got your first sales.
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Pff, I'll just go to Borders and read it until I find out!
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Adventure...betrayal...heroism... Atharon: where heroes are born. My wife once said to me—when I'd been writing for ten or fifteen years—that I could always go back to being a nuclear engineer. And I said to her, 'Harriet, would you let someone who quit his job to go write fantasy anywhere near your nuclear reactor? I wouldn't!' (Robert Jordan) |
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