LotR remake crew and plans

[hectorberlioz]

good. Can I be Glorfindel? Just Kidding... but seriously, folks, 6 movies is the best idea. And you know, why don't we just use the books as our script and add in where we need to because JRRT went off on a non-dialogue tangent.

yep, great idea. but we'll need to change narration into description etc...
and i dont want to have things like bombadil in. bombadil is a delicate subject. he'd look silly on screen.

[Nurvingiel]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
and i dont want to have things like bombadil in.

Is Peter Jackson your new mentor or something?

I don't think it's a good idea to start out the movies by taking things out because we didn't like them. Why don't we plan out other parts first, and come back to Bombadil later? We would leave a giant, gaping plot hole if we just took him out.

[Falagar]

How about keeping the Old Wood but leaving Bombadil? Just as suggestion.

[Twista]

Maybe you could add Gandald or Saurumon telling one of there little flash backs, you know when they look at a book or something and speak of something of old. tom could be put in this way, just a 1 minute slot or something lol

[hectorberlioz]

dont pretend that Bombadil wouldnt be tough to portray nirv.
Falagar-exactly what i was planning.


omitting is not always a bad thing, its changing and adding things that'd kill LotR(and did).

[Nurvingiel]

Ok, I see what you guys mean now. Some things only work in books. However, I'm still not okay with the complete deletion of one of Tolkien's characters, but I see that you guys don't necessarily want to do that.

Edit: I agree Tom would be difficult, but I think we can do it.

What I meant before is we could plan other parts first, and then plan the Old Forest later.

How's this for a comprimise:

At Crickhollow, Merry explains that they could go through the Old Forest, and that Brandybucks had been going there for years. (Take these lines from the book.)

Merry, Pippin, Frodo, and Sam ride into the Old Forest, leading the pack pony.

The hobbits work their way towards the Withywindle.

They approach a huge, ancient willow on foot, leading the ponies. They start to slow down and stumble, and Frodo lies down next to the stream. Sam looks worried, and the scene looks suddenly menacing. Maybe we could have the sky change to grey, or an odd camera shot of the willow.

A sun-browned hand touches Sam's shoulder, and his look of worry changes to relief.

The hobbits ride out of the old forest, and onto the green, rolling Barrow-downs.

They come to the black finger-like stone, and stop for lunch. (The Barrow-downs scene continues as per book.)

Frodo stabs the creeping hand, and sings Tom's rhyme. As he sings, Frodo has a flashback of Tom rescuing them from Old Man Willow, and resting in their house. (Scene: the hobbits eating at the table with Golberry, and a fireplace in the background.)

Tom Bombadil appears shortly after Frodo finishes the rhyme, destroying the barrow and rescuing the Hobbits.


What do you think? The scene with Tom would be brief, and not "silly".

[hectorberlioz]

*sigh* well...it could work like that...
but i was thinking that the hobbits never go to the barrows or bombadil-but that gandalf mentions bombadil at the council...

[Nurvingiel]

If they don't go to the Barrow-downs, Merry will just have a normal sword.

I think we should stay as true as humanly possible to the book. Obviously some comprimises will have to be made. If we leave the planning of Bombadil and other very difficult scenes or characters to the end, then we might find it easier.

Also, if we open that door (of changing stuff that's difficult to portray), we won't be able to close it. I understand where you're coming from with Bombadil, so that's why I suggest leaving his planning to the end. If we do have to make a more drastic change, at least we won't be tempted to do it for the other parts of the movie.

[hectorberlioz]

i suppose you're right...
Am I lucky to have you as my asst. dir or what?

[Nurvingiel]

Why thank you Hector. I'm lucky to have you as director. We're a team! *high five*

So do you want to leave Tom Bombadil for now? We could still use either one of our suggestions if we did that.

[hectorberlioz]

well for now. he should be the last thing we do.
its gonna be hard to cast him i think.

even after the theatre release, im gonna continue to perfect this lotr movie version.

*high ten*!

ATTENTION!: all you crew members, I'm not seeing those sigs with your crew positions in 'em! get 'em in!

[Lady Ravyn]

do you have an Eowyn? i'll be her!
i'm also savvy at script writing, and i like photography too- i can be in charge of close-ups!

[Falagar]

Originally posted by hectorberlioz
ATTENTION!: all you crew members, I'm not seeing those sigs with your crew positions in 'em! get 'em in!

Happy now?

[hectorberlioz]

yes I am .
btw- I want to join your club.

[Twista]

Aww, i feal left out, i take there not a single spot left? Cant i be the Cleaner or something lol? Hell ill even scrub the toliets of the Urak-Kai extras lol

[Nariel]

I would love to put up a position in my sig... but how do I know what position I am?

Also, have you guys discussed the songs yet? I would definitely at least want a little mention of the one Frodo sings in Bree. That's my fave. But in any case, if we want to stay true to the books, we'd need some songwriters to put all these words to tunes.

[Twista]

yea lol. they could have a rock concert at the top of Minas Tirith at the end lol. Get 'The Darkness' playing or something, just for the banter lol. Or maybe not....

lol

[Finrod Felagund]

Originally posted by Falagar
I've already signed up for the role as Legolas, remember!

I can colour my hair, it's dark brown (looks black in the night ). Always wanted black hair.
But the Elves of Lórien (with some exceptions) should have blonde (not necessarily golden) hair, I think.

But I still have to cast you, maybe someone better will come along...

[hectorberlioz]

I'm posting the crew list here so myself and others wont have to go dig it up.
btw-there are still a couple of positions left

Ok, here's the crew(will update when needed)

Hectorberlioz-director

Dreran the Green-trusted advisor and steward, and tree leaf putter onner.

Earniel- costume,makeup and set supervisor.

Gwaimir Wingem-Earniel's dim witted apprentice, and co-producer.

Luthien Tinuviel-asst. director#1

Finrod Felagund-asst dir#2, casting director.

Nurvingiel-asst dir#3

kiwi52291 asst dir.#4

ayarella-Producer

katt_knome_hobbit-prop asst.

Aragorn's dimple-feet gluer onner

jerseydevil- script supervisor

azalea-off. script writer

Telmelion Composer.

SamNotSoWise-music supervisor, and faramir possibility

Lady Ravyn-camera angler, asst dir. of photography

thranduil-film editor, camera agle man. and asst dir. of photography.

Beor- miniatures, asst set designer

dawningoftime-audio etitor

Varda Oiolosseo-Hairdresser

Falagar-legolas, and unofficial site scout

Elvengirl-set deigner for the good guy places, and galadriel

jellyfishannah-bad guy place ste designer

Ornelire Miste-sound editor, lingiust guy...

Gaffer-Gaffer

Cassius-asst. miniature guy

b.banner-condutor possibility, and frodo

Dunadain-aragorn

Legoles-whatever position it was that she wanted, but that i forgot...

Twista-stunt coordinater

cassieopeia-casting director

BB-the guy who reminds us of what the book says. JD's assistant

,hope I didnt miss anyone
tell me if i did.

still need:
weapons trainer-

stunts-


I'll think up more...

[hectorberlioz]

I would love to put up a position in my sig... but how do I know what position I am?

what position do you desire?