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Old 10-26-2004, 03:46 PM   #261
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Random: Yay! *hugs R*an*

Yeah, no pressure to be as long-winded... erm I mean verbose... erm whatever... as I was.

We're happy to hear from you or to let someone else go. It's up to you buddy.
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Yes...why did it make sense? You must tell us WHY! Otherwise your not really telling us much!
Uh-oh... something tells me Lizzie went first so she can grill us Christians without fear of retribution!!

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Old 10-26-2004, 03:53 PM   #263
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Oh there's retribution...

Just kidding! Lizra's my buddy. I'm curious to know the 'why' as well, but bear in mind that 'it has always been so' is a perfectly good answer to 'why?'.

Sometimes, that's just how it is. Or we could explore more in depth... the detail is up to the Hot Seater. (We'll be back for you Lizra, in 100s of pages, when everyone starts going again... bwahahaha! I mean... uh...)
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Old 10-26-2004, 04:07 PM   #264
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BTW, who does want to go next? - I should really have a person "on deck", as the baseball saying goes, so we don't waste time and let the thread languish while looking for the next person. Volunteers?
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Old 10-26-2004, 04:23 PM   #266
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Finrod, is that OK with you?
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Old 10-26-2004, 06:39 PM   #267
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But those two are summations of the ten... not two OF the ten!
(Starts thinking again . . .)
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Old 10-26-2004, 06:44 PM   #268
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I think it would be just about the same. Some thoughts of my old belief might still linger, but I would gradually stop thinking about them.
(frowns, a little) Hmm. For me, they probably wouldn't even fade. The thing is, there are many things outside of the scripture which are true. Everything in the scripture is true, but if you believe something else about the spiritual or physical that isn't expressly expressed in the scripture, that doesn't mean it isn't true. Did I express myself well? :-[
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Old 10-26-2004, 07:05 PM   #269
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I never actually 'questioned' my Christian beliefs. I've always believed in it and always will. All of it sits well with me. Still learning though.
well that is totally opposite to my beliefs but its your turn, *shaking head*...
Would you say because you have never questioned your beliefs that you have lived an ignorant life? does that not scare you one little bit?...
Lin mentioned the "good" life on the other page, and i had to study various philosophers conceptions on it for the first half of the year, so im curious what is the "Good" life for you?
Also one more question, why Catholicism over a less fundamental broader interpretation of Christianity, is it purely that it was what you were brought up with, have you ever disagreed with anything within Catholicism?
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Old 10-26-2004, 07:14 PM   #270
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In what ways does Christianity make sense to you?

(and you don't have to answer - do you want to take more questions, or are you done?)
*thinks a while* Whoever want to take the hot seat can go. I don't understand your question.
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Old 10-26-2004, 07:41 PM   #271
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well that is totally opposite to my beliefs but its your turn, *shaking head*...
Would you say because you have never questioned your beliefs that you have lived an ignorant life? does that not scare you one little bit?...
Lin mentioned the "good" life on the other page, and i had to study various philosophers conceptions on it for the first half of the year, so im curious what is the "Good" life for you?
Also one more question, why Catholicism over a less fundamental broader interpretation of Christianity, is it purely that it was what you were brought up with, have you ever disagreed with anything within Catholicism?
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No, I have not lived an ignorant life.
The "good life" to me would be (and is) having God in my life and serving Him as well as having friends and family.
Well, I was brought up with it, and it all makes sense to me. I probably disagreed with some part at some time, but I can't think of anything.
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Meriadoc,

You have clearly examined your beliefs and grasp why they make sense to you and present them well for others.

I think Millane's point about "questioned your belief" carried a sense of "thought they were erroneous". One needn't think that to examine one's beliefs one has to assume them erroneous. One need not be scared of the possibility that the Truth is in fact known to them.

The unexamined life is not worth living was the correct statement, not the unquestioned life results in ignorance.

The absolute value that all values must be questioned is itself questionable .
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Old 10-26-2004, 08:27 PM   #273
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The unexamined life is not worth living was the correct statement, not the unquestioned life results in ignorance.
correct statement for Plato perhaps, nice quote but i was asking a different question
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i know which one i would hold stronger though, a "blind" belief that is held or a belief that is still held after you have questioned it thoroughly. Well theres our point of difference, Truth
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i know which one i would hold stronger though, a "blind" belief that is held or a belief that is still held after you have questioned it thoroughly. Well theres our point of difference, Truth
Perhaps your statement will become more acceptable if you change tje wording from "questioned" to "examined" or "meditated on".
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Old 10-26-2004, 08:35 PM   #275
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Perhaps your statement will become more acceptable if you change tje wording from "questioned" to "examined" or "meditated on".
yeah perhaps, but Meriadoc used the word questioned so i thought i should use it aswell.
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now your turn whos quote is this "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
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Millane,

you asked, "now your turn whos quote is this "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." "

Off the top of my head, ... George W. Bush in regard to John Kerry?
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Millane,

you asked, "now your turn whos quote is this "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." "

Off the top of my head, ... George W. Bush in regard to John Kerry?
nope sad to say i dont keep up with American politics
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I see I was mentioned in the first post

As Rian said, she was trying to lure me here. She mentioned only once that she was holding this discussion, and I guess it was working in my brain, as here I am, and you all seem to need a volunteer.

So, I'm volunteering.

I'm not sure what is required of me for this post ... I guess I should start with my religion. You may guess I'm a Buddhist, as Rian included me in the parenthesis next to "Buddhism" in her post. I am indeed very interested in Buddhism, and I have studied it, but I am not actually Buddhist, and I call Hinduism my home.

You may thus refer to me as a Hindu I do not mean to say that I am "settling" for Hinduism, or that "Hinduism is the closest thing" to what I am. I mean to say that I am a Hindu. But to me, being a Hindu, or a Buddhist, or a Christian needn't come with all the preconceived notions bound up with the names. First and foremost, I am what I am. To me, this world, and life, and death, and holy books, and religions all come after. I believe that the only constant is that which you truly are, in your innermost, or highest, being. I am speaking of Truth, or Reality, the Ultimate Truth, the Ultimate Reality. You can name it what you want ("God" to me describes what I am talking about), I don't think the names matter.

Nor do I believe that the method or religion by which you arrive at the Truth is ultimately important. One of my fundamental beliefs is that all faiths are equal. There is one Reality, and there are many religions, and I don't see this as a problem. I think anyone can realize the Truth, whether he or she be a Hindu, or a Catholic, or an Atheist.

Well, forgive the long introduction, if it is long, I just want to present something that can give rise to enough questions.
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No questions yet. I'm admiring your writing style . (Admires it a little longer) Okay, ready for more .
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Why thank you Lief.

I should apologize to you for not responding to your latest e-mail. Sorry! Maybe this discussion will make up for that.
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