Tolkien's Languages - Page 14

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 06-06-2003, 11:18 AM

Happy am I! I judged you left and wouldn't return. Who left from the thread? Having hands we have for your letters. Long time is it (It has been a long time?).

I don't think I translated that quite right...

Andave is the adverb form of long.

Ruinel · 06-06-2003, 01:01 PM

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Happy is I! I judge you left and shall not return. What you went away from thread? Great longing we possess for your words. Long time it is.

Haryalme neldÃ« liÃ«, sarmÃ« sinnomÃ«.

We should start a side conversation to keep the thread going. You can start if you want.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 06-06-2003, 04:56 PM

Translation: We have three people, writing here.
Is 'sarme' writing a noun? Sinome has 1 n.
Could you say, 'Haryalme nelde lie i tÃ©ca sinome'?

Sanda, ar esten ahostuvalme lillie. Manen Falagar tuvanel?

Ruinel · 06-06-2003, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Translation: We have three people, writing here.
Is 'sarme' writing a noun? Sinome has 1 n.
Could you say, 'Haryalme nelde lie i tÃ©ca sinome'?

Sanda, ar esten ahostuvalme lillie. Manen Falagar tuvanel?

my word list does not say if it is a noun, but lists 'writings' (book) as parma. I assume sarmÃ« is not a noun if 'book' is a noun.

I had a typo... I know it is only one 'n'.

tec- root for 'write' and tecÃ« 3rd person aorist 'writes'. So you are saying '...that write in this place.' That would work also, I think.

Translation:
"True, and I rest we shall gather many people. How Falagar you find me."

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 06-06-2003, 09:35 PM

No.
How did you find Falagar?
I don't mention myself in that statement at all.

Ruinel · 06-06-2003, 11:34 PM

I had trouble with 'tuvanel'. Sorry.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 06-08-2003, 03:47 PM

Haryan er enque auri 'nÃ³me handeo'sse!!

Ruinel · 06-08-2003, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Haryan er enque auri 'nÃ³me handeo'sse!!

I have still six days place beginning to understand!

Not sure if I got that right.

in this place is ... sinomÃ«. I'm not sure if you meant, "I have six days in this place...."

Man lÃº autal hestuvan endanya ar nyÃ©nuvan lelyuvalmmÃ«.

Er, cauren nin mÃ* lÃºmÃ« vanyal. Falagar ÃºtuliÃ« ananomÃ«.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 06-08-2003, 05:22 PM

Man lÃº autal hestuvan endanya ar nyÃ©nuvan lelyuvalmmÃ«. Er, cauren nin mÃ* lÃºmÃ« vanyal. Falagar ÃºtuliÃ« ananomÃ«.
Trans: What time do you leave I will wither my heart and I will lament (that?) we will leave. Still, I fear to myself in the time you depart. Falagar has not come to (this) place.

I do not think the man is need, but you could use i. In nyÃ©nuvan the -n might not be necessary if you mean to say 'my heart will wither'. Also, mÃ* might not be right, but again, i would be appropriate. Place, nÃ³me, has a long O.

I meant to say, 'I have only six days in "place of understanding"' (school).

Apa lenden 'nÃ³me handeo'llo, nauvan sinome minyanna NÃ¡rie, i liasse.

Ruinel · 06-08-2003, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Man lÃº autal hestuvan endanya ar nyÃ©nuvan lelyuvalmmÃ«. Er, cauren nin mÃ* lÃºmÃ« vanyal. Falagar ÃºtuliÃ« ananomÃ«.
Trans: What time do you leave I will wither my heart and I will lament (that?) we will leave. Still, I fear to myself in the time you depart. Falagar has not come to (this) place.

I do not think the man is need, but you could use i. In nyÃ©nuvan the -n might not be necessary if you mean to say 'my heart will wither'. Also, mÃ* might not be right, but again, i would be appropriate. Place, nÃ³me, has a long O.

I meant to say, 'I have only six days in "place of understanding"' (school).

Apa lenden 'nÃ³me handeo'llo, nauvan sinome minyanna NÃ¡rie, i liasse.

translation: After I go place of learning, I will be in this place first thing June, the thread(something?).
SÃ¡manya nÃ¡ [disordered] sÃ*. Sorry.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 06-08-2003, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
translation: After I go place of learning, I will be in this place first thing June, the thread(something?).
SÃ¡manya nÃ¡ [disordered] sÃ*. Sorry.

Close, it is: After I depart from school (place of understanding), I will be in this place unto the First of June, at the thread.

Trans: My mind is (disordered) now.
RÃºcina means shattered/disordered.
I'm sorry. I first said, 'I have only 6 days of school'. Then I said, 'After school gets out, I will be here at the thread until June 1st'. At some point, you thought I had onyl 6 days at Entmoot. Hope this clarifies some stuff.

Nice word I found: sie, meaning thus.

Ruinel · 06-08-2003, 11:41 PM

SÃ¡manya nÃ¡ rÃºcina sÃ*. YassÃ« hirnel 'sie'?

I think you mean July 1st. It is already June now.

Falagar · 06-09-2003, 10:08 AM

I'm sorry, but I had to leave again, now I'm back! Was forced on an unexpected trip up in the mountains, didn't get to inform you guys

NÃ¡n sinomÃ« sÃ*...

Won't disappear without warning you again!

Ruinel · 06-09-2003, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Falagar
I'm sorry, but I had to leave again, now I'm back! Was forced on an unexpected trip up in the mountains, didn't get to inform you guys

NÃ¡n sinomÃ« sÃ*...

Won't disappear without warning you again!

Translation: I am in this place now.

Ilya nÃ¡ vanwa ho sÃ¡manya.

OrnelÃ*rÃ« lelyuva ho i lia rato, CermiÃ« minya. Nan quet-rÃ« NÃ¡riÃ« minya.

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 06-09-2003, 07:31 PM

Trans, Ruinel: My mind is disordered now. In what did you find 'sie'?
Hirnel should be hiranel.
Trans, Ruinel: All is gone from my mind. Ornelire will leave from the thread soon, July 1st. But she said June 1st.
Terribly, terribly sorry.

**Leaving July 1st. Returning August 6th**
I may be able to get a few things in between those dates, but I'm not totally sure. August, I promise I will post.

Utuuvien 'sie' i Quettaparma Quenyanna, Ardalambiondesse.

Ruinel · 06-09-2003, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
Trans, Ruinel: My mind is disordered now. In what did you find 'sie'?
Hirnel should be hiranel.
Trans, Ruinel: All is gone from my mind. Ornelire will leave from the thread soon, July 1st. But she said June 1st.
Terribly, terribly sorry.

**Leaving July 1st. Returning August 6th**
I may be able to get a few things in between those dates, but I'm not totally sure. August, I promise I will post.

Utuuvien 'sie' i Quettaparma Qenyanna, Ardalambiondesse.

Why do you think the past tense of the verb hir- should be hiranÃ«?

The '-rn-' combination is allowed in Quenya. Therefore, isn't the past tense of hir- (find) hirnÃ« (found)? Did you find it someplace like that?

Trans: I have found (utÃºvien

, you've got a typo there I think) 'sie' the Quenya Wordlist, Ardalambion.

Oh, I did not find it there. That is why I asked.

Maybe we are looking at different wordlists. I don't know.

Man carel an lÃºlyÃ« an autal? TecÃ« Quenya lambÃ«?

OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« · 06-09-2003, 09:38 PM

How many posts ago did I mention that I sometimes double the vowel instead of an accent? I was lazy. Sleepy. My friend who speaks Sindarin does it sometimes when she can't use accents.

Ruinel · 06-09-2003, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OrnelÃ*rÃ« MistÃ«
How many posts ago did I mention that I sometimes double the vowel instead of an accent? I was lazy. Sleepy. My friend who speaks Sindarin does it sometimes when she can't use accents.

Oh, wow... must have been a very long time ago. I had forgotten that.

Ok.

No problem. I will try to remember that.

Falagar · 06-10-2003, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Man carel an lÃºlyÃ« an autal? TecÃ« Quenya lambÃ«?

"Who/how do you for you occation until you leave? Write Quenya language?"
Or something similar

Ruinel · 06-10-2003, 10:22 AM

Close..

Man carel an lÃºlyÃ« an autal? TecÃ« Quenya lambÃ«?
What you do for your time for you leave? Write Quenya?

Really hard to write what I wanted to say here. I was asking: What will you do during the time before you leave.

confusing, eh? Sorry.

Ni autuva an atta sanar, ata.

MÃ¡lon harya maurÃ« nin. Ni (shall attempt/try) tecÃ« sinomÃ«, (if I can).

Sorry, in a hurry to leave.

I rushed this one.

06-06-2003, 11:18 AM	#261
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Happy am I! I judged you left and wouldn't return. Who left from the thread? Having hands we have for your letters. Long time is it (It has been a long time?). I don't think I translated that quite right... Andave is the adverb form of long. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

06-06-2003, 04:56 PM	#263
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Translation: We have three people, writing here. Is 'sarme' writing a noun? Sinome has 1 n. Could you say, 'Haryalme nelde lie i tÃ©ca sinome'? Sanda, ar esten ahostuvalme lillie. Manen Falagar tuvanel? __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

06-06-2003, 09:35 PM	#265
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	No. How did you find Falagar? I don't mention myself in that statement at all. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

06-08-2003, 03:47 PM	#267
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Haryan er enque auri 'nÃ³me handeo'sse!! __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

06-08-2003, 05:22 PM	#269
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Man lÃº autal hestuvan endanya ar nyÃ©nuvan lelyuvalmmÃ«. Er, cauren nin mÃ* lÃºmÃ« vanyal. Falagar ÃºtuliÃ« ananomÃ«. Trans: What time do you leave I will wither my heart and I will lament (that?) we will leave. Still, I fear to myself in the time you depart. Falagar has not come to (this) place. I do not think the man is need, but you could use i. In nyÃ©nuvan the -n might not be necessary if you mean to say 'my heart will wither'. Also, mÃ* might not be right, but again, i would be appropriate. Place, nÃ³me, has a long O. I meant to say, 'I have only six days in "place of understanding"' (school). Apa lenden 'nÃ³me handeo'llo, nauvan sinome minyanna NÃ¡rie, i liasse. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

06-06-2003, 01:01 PM	#262
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	close Happy is I! I judge you left and shall not return. What you went away from thread? Great longing we possess for your words. Long time it is. Haryalme neldÃ« liÃ«, sarmÃ« sinnomÃ«. We should start a side conversation to keep the thread going. You can start if you want.

06-06-2003, 11:34 PM	#266
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	I had trouble with 'tuvanel'. Sorry.

06-08-2003, 11:41 PM	#272
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	SÃ¡manya nÃ¡ rÃºcina sÃ*. YassÃ« hirnel 'sie'? I think you mean July 1st. It is already June now.

06-09-2003, 10:08 AM	#273
Falagar Death of Mooters and [Entmoot] Internal Affairs Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 2,870	I'm sorry, but I had to leave again, now I'm back! Was forced on an unexpected trip up in the mountains, didn't get to inform you guys NÃ¡n sinomÃ« sÃ... Won't disappear without warning you again! __________________ FÃ«anor - Innocence incarnated* Still, AikanÃ¡ro 'till the Last battle.

06-09-2003, 07:31 PM	#275
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	Trans, Ruinel: My mind is disordered now. In what did you find 'sie'? Hirnel should be hiranel. Trans, Ruinel: All is gone from my mind. Ornelire will leave from the thread soon, July 1st. But she said June 1st. Terribly, terribly sorry. Leaving July 1st. Returning August 6th I may be able to get a few things in between those dates, but I'm not totally sure. August, I promise I will post. Utuuvien 'sie' i Quettaparma Quenyanna, Ardalambiondesse. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?" Last edited by OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« : 06-09-2003 at 07:54 PM.

06-09-2003, 09:38 PM	#277
OrnelÃrÃ« MistÃ« Elven Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 482	How many posts ago did I mention that I sometimes double the vowel instead of an accent? I was lazy. Sleepy. My friend who speaks Sindarin does it sometimes when she can't use accents. __________________ "Lot of people say this city looks like Hell," Allie said. She took a long drag from her cigarette. The glowing tip burned a hole in the darkness. "Most people never been to Hell," Jacob said. She looked at him and he could hear the smile in her voice. "And I suppose you have?"

06-10-2003, 10:22 AM	#280
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	Close.. Man carel an lÃºlyÃ« an autal? TecÃ« Quenya lambÃ«? What you do for your time for you leave? Write Quenya? Really hard to write what I wanted to say here. I was asking: What will you do during the time before you leave. confusing, eh? Sorry. Ni autuva an atta sanar, ata. MÃ¡lon harya maurÃ« nin. Ni (shall attempt/try) tecÃ« sinomÃ«, (if I can). Sorry, in a hurry to leave. I rushed this one.

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