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Nay, I'm ashamed of my puny post count ... I can't bear to talk anymore ... the shame, the agony!
Oh, ok, but wait until the kids are in bed
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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His movement was a real "back-to-the-basics-as-revealed-in-the-Bible" sort of thing. The Lutheran Church in Germany of the 1930's and 1940's was pretty far removed from that. It was state-supported, and therefore, subject to a certain amount of state control. Interesting book written a few years ago by a man named Erwin Lutzer called, "Hitler's Cross". It details how Hitler intended to further transform the church in Germany - to bring it in line with his Aryan Supremacist doctrine. It would have basically ceased to be a Christian Church (unless in name only). Hitler does not appear to have been a Christian by any stretch. But as Guillaume says, it would be presumptive of me to say that I know his eternal fate. I do not know it. |
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(answer to Ruinel's question, con't)
You probably wanted a little more than that, tho, so ... oh my, how I wish we could talk Communication by typing is so hard. Give me a call sometime, Ruinel! Let me hear your voice Lizra called me once and said I had a nice voice - I guess it's kind of low-pitched (she was probably expecting some high-pitched hysterical woman's voice ). Are you curious now to hear my voice? OK - the demon remark - see, all through the Bible, both OTest and NTest, true belief is not merely intellectual - it is consistently characterized by heart and action. In the OTest., God mourns over how the people give him lip service, but their hearts are "far from Me". And the mourning is for the PEOPLE, for THEY are the ones hurt by this - it's not some whiny complaint. And also in the OTest, God says what he wants are things like justice, mercy, aiding the widow and orphan in their distress - IOW, action. The two - heart and action - are inextricably linked together. They are two sides of a coin. You will act out of what is in your heart. Will you say that you believe I'm your friend? Those are only words - until it comes to a point where your life depends on something that you have to give me to do - then your TRUE belief will be apparent by what you choose to DO - if you either give it to me to do, or if you ... don't. So as far as the demons, they: (1) believe in my God(in the sense that they know that He exists, which is what I think you mean); (2) believe the Bible is the word of my God; and (3) believe that Jesus was the son of God. They intellectually believe, that is. But true belief also involves assent to what is believed. The demons believe, but do not assent to the rightful authority of God. And assent is in the form of ... action. And some more interesting things on the heart in the NTest - read Matthew chpt. 5, if you get a chance - Jesus mentions offenses like murder that were in the OTest, then says that ANGER is the SAME as MURDER! It's HEART God is interested in, not outward appearances, because what is in our HEART will come out in our ACTIONS. And only God can change our hearts - but ONLY with our assent. This is the great mystery of His granting to us free will. I love dogs, and my doggie loves me! but the free-will love of my children and husband and friends is light-years above my dog's love. I asked ages ago, when we were talking about suffering, How else could God have arranged things and still given us free will? There is NO other way - the alternative is to make us robots that only do good, but the doing is worthless, because there is no free will involved. But free will love is glorious, and it is the proper and only good for us all. And true belief in God is - well, let me quote from James 1:27: "This is pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father, to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world." True faith is made evident by works. That's the other way of saying belief leads to assent, leading to action. So as far as "saved by God's grace and trying to live in obedience", true belief is characterized by action in accordance with what is believed. One cannot have true belief in God without "trying to live in obedience". And our attempts at obedience are based in love, because the more we come to know God, the more we love him. Read through James, and you'll see the beautiful balance between faith and works. If anyone says they are a Christian, I say to them: put your life where your words are. I hope this is kind of along the lines of the answer you were looking for.
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And just to provide the balance - I agree with the guys that you cannot look at someone and say with certainty if they are a Christian or not. Only God can truly see the heart. Many people that look quite bad can be Christian, because ANYONE can come to God at ANY time. And some people come to God that are quite low on the ladder of how we judge "good". Jesus said there's gonna be some surprises about who we see in heaven - there might even be a televangelist there! (minus the hairspray, of course )
Like I've said before, God may very well be a hundred times as happy with someone that refrains from lying one time out of 100, because they came from such a bad background, than with me telling the truth the vast majority of the time. It's easy for me to tell the truth, because of how I was raised - it takes very little effort. But the effort required of someone that has lied from the moment they could talk, and then becomes a Christian, to NOT lie once, is tremendous. And I'm sure the angels throw a party every time this person refrains from lying because of their love of, and belief in, God. So faith is evidenced by works, and I would say even increasing works as we grow in Christ (but not only the feeding the poor type - also things like speech improvement and removal of improper pride), but people, who cannot see the heart, cannot truly judge who is a Christian and who isn't. Again, tho, the Bible says that true faith is evidenced by works - which means, of course, trying to obey.
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In answer to the question: Why do you love God? I post below an article I found a link to on a page about the Sacred Heart of Jesus:
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I'll read all the stuff you posted later today, Rian. I've got about 30 First Graders coming into the classroom for Art in about
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Ru: Considering the text he quoted, I think he was referring to Hitler; not sure about that.
Anyhow, how do YOU know there isn't a "Stray Sheep" religion? I can certainly imagine that being the case. I mean, heck, there's even a Jedi religion!
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by Rían : 12-05-2003 at 12:38 PM. |
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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Keep going Rian... you're only behind by SEVEN!!!
Actually, what seems important is the 'ppd' count: posts-per-diem THAT will eventually win out in the long run. |
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Regarding Tolkien, I usually ask for his prayers.
Do you mean to tell me that you wouldn't ask any living friend of yours for anything but that? You wouldn't, for instance ask your kids to do housework? Or to ask a friend to help you with something? About Scripture, to me, I see this in the story of the centurion. He said that Jesus did not need to go to his house; he could but say the word and the sertavnt would be healed. He said that he also was a man who had many in submission to him; he could say to one soldier "Go" and he would go, to another "Do this" and he would do it. To me, it seems like he is saying that Jesus could just send one of his servants, i.e. angels or saints, to go and heal the servant; he could, like the centurion, say, for instance, to an angel, "Do this", and he would do it. In the context, that is the interpretation that makes the most sense to me.
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