05-08-2006, 10:41 AM | #261 | |
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And with respect in mind, that's all I'll say in response on this one.
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05-08-2006, 10:42 AM | #262 |
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A kindlier, gentlier Islam....
http://corner.nationalreview.com/pos...E2YmY4MDkxZTc= "Subject: How to GENTLY impose Islamic rule on Society...a kinder, Gentler Islamo-fascism! What is written on the white-board behind revolutionary guard commander Talaii (in larger black font) a.. If you see women with thick lipstick, don't use a razor blade to slash their faces (as has been permissible and very much done by the disciplinary forces patrolling the cities), use Kleenex. b.. If you see too much makeup on women's faces, don't spray their faces with acid (as has been permissible and very much done by the disciplinary forces patrolling the cities), use rosewater. c.. If women are wearing too short of a dress, give them a free chador (veil). d.. If their scarves is too short, don't use the slogan of: "yaa roo sari, yaa too sari" (which means "either wear a scarf, or get smacked on the head"...this has been one of the regime's most disgusting comments to Iranians women since the very early days of the revolution). e.. Either cover their entire hair or gently cut their hair off. The caption, in the bottom of the photo reads: The head of the police force of Tehran said: "The Irshad (guidance) Patrols should not treat people with an antagonistice approach." This is their attempt at a kinder, gentler Mullacracy!" But, not my problem since I don't live in Iran, you say........okay, Sweden? http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/175351.php Sharia, Sharia, Sharia ... by any other name is ... Sharia http://www.defenddemocracy.org/in_th...attrib_id=7378
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05-08-2006, 11:30 AM | #263 |
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another viewpoint....
http://www.americanthinker.com/comme...mments_id=5044 very interesting in regards to numbers of Christian converts in Africa....
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05-08-2006, 12:11 PM | #264 |
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At least there are some things in life you can count on.
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05-08-2006, 04:58 PM | #265 |
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wow, sad that people can't even pray in their own homes without worrying about being attacked
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05-10-2006, 08:27 PM | #266 |
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How big is the Palestinian state to be in a two-state solution? Well, here's the Qatar answer:
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/060510/i.../080601mideast Reckon they want fries with that? edit: Probably not, especially when they can have Denmark! http://www.cphpost.dk/get/95528.html
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05-11-2006, 05:49 PM | #268 |
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Perhaps, then, GM, you can elucidate why none of the Arab countries controlling the area for centuries never made a Palestinian state. It (the Palestinian state) is an artificial construct as a political maneuver by arabs to regain what was lost fair and square. And, I seem to recall several abortive arabic tries at removing Israel - which is how the area came to be under Israeli control. You know, that old lose war, lose territory thing! Soi Hamas comes along to push Israel into the sea and gets elected. Hmmm, wonder what will happen if the chance should occur? History repeat again?
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Strangely enough, the people who lose a war "fair and square" and have their land stolen or occupied often attempt to reverse that, instead of simply accepting that might makes right. Yes, the Arabs attempted to remove Israel, on the grounds that it was Arab land that had been taken as compensation for crimes committed by Germany. Want to give the Jews reparations for the Holocaust? Give them Bavaria or Saxony- no argument from me. Quote:
In the days of my idealistic youth, I believed that the solution was for a secular Palestine from the Jordan to the Mediterranean where Jews, Muslims and Christians could live together in peace. Since that is impossible for the foreseeable future, the best available option is the two-state solution something along the lines of the Camp David accord (which Arafat was a conniving fool for rejecting). Last edited by GreyMouser : 05-13-2006 at 07:10 AM. |
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05-16-2006, 11:03 PM | #271 |
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Just an update. According to this article, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4965580.stm, religious freedom for minorities is fading in Malaysia.
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05-20-2006, 09:23 AM | #272 |
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Iran eyes badges for Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians The dhimma is making a strong comeback in Iran. The idea that dhimmis must wear distinctive clothing so that they can be easily recognized as non-Muslims in Muslim societies goes back to the ninth-century caliph Al-Mutawwakil, and possibly earlier. Many Islamic apologists and politically correct historians would have us believe that such measures are a relic of history. They aren't. "Iran eyes badges for Jews," from the National Post. Human rights groups are raising alarms over a new law passed by the Iranian parliament that would require the country's Jews and Christians to wear coloured badges to identify them and other religious minorities as non-Muslims. "This is reminiscent of the Holocaust," said Rabbi Marvin Hier, the dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles. "Iran is moving closer and closer to the ideology of the Nazis." Hier is right, but as I explained above, this is not something that Iran is getting from the Nazis. This is part of the earliest Islamic laws of dhimmitude. Iranian expatriates living in Canada yesterday confirmed reports that the Iranian parliament, called the Islamic Majlis, passed a law this week setting a dress code for all Iranians, requiring them to wear almost identical "standard Islamic garments." The law, which must still be approved by Iran's "Supreme Guide" Ali Khamenehi before being put into effect, also establishes special insignia to be worn by non-Muslims. Iran's roughly 25,000 Jews would have to sew a yellow strip of cloth on the front of their clothes, while Christians would wear red badges and Zoroastrians would be forced to wear blue cloth.... This color coding also has deep roots in Islamic tradition regarding the treatment of the dhimmis. Although the colors assigned to each group sometimes change, the idea of a distinctive badge worn by the dhimmis is virtually as old as the dhimma itself. You can find abundant confirmation of this in Bat Ye'or's books. Ali Behroozian, an Iranian exile living in Toronto, said the law could come into force as early as next year. It would make religious minorities immediately identifiable and allow Muslims to avoid contact with non-Muslims. Mr. Behroozian said it will make life even more difficult for Iran's small pockets of Jewish, Christian and other religious minorities -- the country is overwhelmingly Shi'ite Muslim. "They have all been persecuted for a while, but these new dress rules are going to make things worse for them," he said. The new law was drafted two years ago, but was stuck in the Iranian parliament until recently when it was revived at the behest of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. the different colors for the dhimmis in Muslim society are noted in the Arabian Nights Tales [1001 Nights], especially I believe, in the tale of the ensorcelled prince. |
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Conrad Black is a right-wing (former) Canadian publisher currently desperately fighting fraud charges. He renounced Canadian citizenship so he could acquire British honours, now he's trying to regain it so he doesn't have to serve time in an American jail (of course, he was always praising the tough USA system and denouncing wimpish Canadian jails until it turned out he might have to serve some of that tough time) He bought the Jerusalem Post ansd turned it from a respected voice in the Middle-East into a Likudnik mouthpiece. |
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05-21-2006, 12:42 AM | #274 | |
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Conrad Black also sold the Jerusalem Post, and it has shifted back to a more centrist position The dress code issue is still bogus, however. |
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05-22-2006, 03:59 AM | #275 |
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Interesting. Thanks for that, GM. Good link, btw.
Isn't it funny how easy it is to whip up hysteria and how keen people are to believe it? So, are we witnessing a demonisation prior to military intervention? |
05-24-2006, 12:20 AM | #276 |
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...190424,00.html
Religion of peace. More likely piece. See what you think. edit: just found this lovely female liberation sort of thing in Iran (liberate from life, that is) http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatc...ves/011511.php
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After 9/11 Saudi Arabia came under pressure to alter its hate-filled textbooks- books used not only at home, but also in the madrasses in other countries that the Saudis so generously fund to push their brand of fanatical Wahabbism
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And if she had been raped, brought charges, and been unable to produce four male witnesses on her side, then she could have been put to death for engaging in illicit sex.
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05-29-2006, 05:30 PM | #280 |
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Hmm....still a lot of turmoil in this case, but I think the truth is going to come out soon. IMO, she's falsely accusing. She may have been so traumatised from part I that she was desperate to...I don't know .
I don't want to hold any definite ideas about the case, because I'm all for getting the criminals, but on the other hand, she has a history...
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